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Meyer type WFC - from design and fabrication to test and development.

Started by Farrah Day, November 22, 2007, 11:55:54 AM

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AhuraMazda

@Farah Day

Meyer said WFC would work with tap water, snow and see water etc. This makes me believe his technique worked on water molecules alone. With all the variations involved, Intuitively,  would think this coating would become an integral part of the system. This being the case, why couldn't we start our experiments with anodized aluminum tubes? I don't think 12 volts is enough for this operation but although I admire Dogs attempts, I don't think we need to go more that 1000 - 1500 V.

In one of my attempts I had the inner tube in a condom in order provide galvanic separation.

With regards the step charging, there are several more unknowns. What are the widths and heights of the steps?
I guess with each step of the pulse the molecules are some how pushed into a different "state" so, it would be self defeating to have pulses that went back to 0.

I agree with you on H2 O2 but again I am guessing.

I believe the down fall of Meyer was greed. The same as any other inventors who want to monopolize a commodity which in effect is like water or air. Free energy would never be brought to market by any one because it would not be then free!

AM

Andyteee


Farrah Day

Andy, got to say that U-tube link provides the best Meyer wfc analysis that I've ever come across.  Everyone should take a look at it.

AM, I'm not convinced that salt water would be a good idea... think chlorine!  Perhaps Meyer was just indicating the fact that the ocean was a limitless source of water for a wfc (once the salt was removed). 

The guy on that video link provided by Andy, agrees with what I've said all along about the cct not being able to resonate because of that blocking diode, but what puzzles me is that he seems to think that tap water is dielectric enough to form a capacitor.  At low voltages maybe yes, but Meyer was supposedly pulsing at kilovolts!

So, if we use a transformer to up the voltage, you would expect our wfc to instantly conduct a high current. One thing tho', this guy was talking about the gas being produced by nothing more mysterious than rapid ionisation, for which we already know the reaction equation.

Nice to see what appears to be an educated person discussing Meyer responsibly, but to my mind there are still questions that need answering. Still some things niggling me about all this.

Incidentally, my test cell overnight in the calcium sulphate, provided me with no visible coating on the electrodes after drying, and the water had turned to really brown gunk.

Having cleaned everything up, I now have my large test cell purring away in water with a teaspoon of calcium carbonate in it, so we'll see how this progresses.  I actually found a bag of this stuff at hand. Another name for it is 'Whiting', and it's used to make glazes for pottery - good thing I remembered about the old kiln shed!

Farrah Day

"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts"

AhuraMazda

Peter Lindemann has quite a following. The above video is part of a larger seminar. He casually tells every one how all these technologies work but after 40 years of doing this,
to my knowledge he does not seem to be any closer than the rest of us into tapping into ZPE. ( Sorry Peter ).

Many people have tried subjecting water to extremely high voltage oh high current but I have not heard of any unusual results.

Farrah Day

Agreed AM - that is one of my niggles!

Lindemann made it all sound so simple, but in that clip he never actually gave any true comparisons by relating figures in efficiency to normal electrolysis.  To my mind it's still only Lawton and his colleagues that are actually making any real progress after all this time.

The main problem is that we are not dealing with straight electronics here - there is the element of chemistry to consider - so we can't simply theorise on exactly what is happening from purely an electronics perspective with any real conviction.

It would seem that the interaction between the chemistry and electronics is what is creating the 'unknowns' and hence the gaps in understanding the principles involved.

Which leads me to believe that there is only so much that you can achieve from the theory unless you combine it with practical observations.  Dogs' recent experiments are very useful in this respect.

I still find it all very intriguing.

Farrah Day

"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts"