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Meyer type WFC - from design and fabrication to test and development.

Started by Farrah Day, November 22, 2007, 11:55:54 AM

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AhuraMazda

Farrah Day,
While I am at it, I don't hold much credibility for Dave Lawton and Ravi's work. I rather go straight to the source: Meyer.
Even with him I ask myself if he was a fraud but there were quite a number of witnesses and too many patents for him to
have been a fraud.

I still think using the alternator in his demo should give us a clue. That would have given him an instant 3 phase supply.
Why did he need 3 phase?


AM

Andyteee


Farrah Day

AM, Puzzled that you find Lawton less credible than Meyer. Lawton at least has a detailed PWM schematic, various PWM ccts built, tested and working, with corresponding details of results along with available scope photos of pulses and video clips.  All seemingly very open and honest, with no invented techno-babble to muddy the waters and, it would appear, no hidden agenda.

Meyer had little to offer in this respect. Patents are only worth anything if they work - all Meyer's are extremely suspect. Add to this Meyer's videos where he clearly lacks the science knowledge to explain anything properly, but nevertheless bungles through with invented mumbo-jumbo, and I know who I find more credible.  I'm not even sure Meyer is the true 'source' as it seems some of his patent diagrams are copies of Purarich's earlier work.

I'm not saying Meyer was an outright fraud, but I believe he had dug himself into a hole he could not get out of, and so was at least bordering on it.  One thing the patents do indicate (whether they worked or not), was that Meyer was looking to make a lot of money from it all, one way or another.

So I guess we're at odds here - but each to their own.
Farrah Day

"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts"

Tacmatricx

Hey Farrah Day,

I have to agree with you on the Mayers and Puharich... It's a little strange how he went from 18" tubes to a little diesel injector looking miracle device that instead of producing bubbles of gas now produced this "Thermo Explosive Energy"... Looks exactly like the Puharich device which bears a resemblance to the Keely Cannon to me...

Curious what would happen if you conditioned the white coating on the inner tube... then switched the polarity once the conditioning was complete... would you then condition the same substance on the outside tube?

Let me know the exact dimensions of your tubes... I have a calculation that might produce the ideal pulse and gate frequencies for your D14 PWM. If you have a frequency counter I would be really interested in your results!

Thanks,

Farrah Day

Hi Tac

I'm still very much at the experimenting stage at present - playing about with various electrolytes in order to try to enhance the conditioning process.

I think conditioning the cathode and then swapping the electrode would be a very beneficial experiment.  It would be interesting to know whether or not the coating would remain on the anode or somehow be chemically removed over time.  I've been digging into this area a little more and I've found that wet electrolytic capacitors can develop a similar crusty compound which actually covers the original dielectric oxide layer.  This coating, would appear similar to ours, tho' not classed as a dielectric, it does provide a very high resistance.

I found this very interesting as it was indicated that this coating may actually help protect the true dielectric coating beneath it.  All this is with reference to aluminium being the anode and aluminium oxide being the surface dielectric, but the similarities between this and with what we are experimenting with may be informative and hence useful.  Effectively then, they had a capacitor with a very high internal resistance - I think this could be a very accurate description of our conditioned wfc.  I'm still puzzled a little by the chemistry tho', as with aluminium, this all occurs at the anode, with ss we seem to be getting this at the cathode, with seemingly little happening at the anode.

Makes me think that perhaps the dielectric properties of the chromium oxide coating on the ss is irrelevant in terms of capacitance, and in fact the white coating on our cathodes provides enough internal resistance to effectively provide the capacitance we need at given frequencies. 

I've not yet applied my Lawton cct to my test cells, but when I do I have the equipment to monitor results quite accurately.

Wonder what Dogs is up to?
Farrah Day

"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts"