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Theoretical Gravity Wheel Design

Started by Imgoingnuts, November 23, 2007, 08:06:11 AM

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Joh70


Joh70

maybe see the french-section:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2534.0.html

cannot say anything about it, because i cannot read french

Joh70

there was also a german patent dicussed here somewhere in the forum, with a gravity wheel concept with two turning wheights on each end of the lever. didn't found it... the demo unit was housed in a metal barrel. maybe also in the french section... but also discussed in english somewhere...

supersam

@all,

does this idea have merrit?  i think it does!!  i just went back and found on the second page of gravity devices,  "the living energy machine"  remember that?  man that thing would fly!  this looks kind of like that only verticle with an outer ring.  that might be interesting, when you think about it.  the biggest question i have in my mind is, how does the outer ring actually move?  and if it doesn't, is only extra friction for no reason.  everyone take a look and let's see if we can establish a way to make this baby roll.

lol
sam

ps: check out the video on youtube.

wattsup

@Imgoingnuts

Yes you are. Just joking. lol

Really, when you come on the board with a nice design and just ask "will this work", what else do you expect us to say. No explanation on how it's supposed to work, nothing. So we have to look at your design and figure out what you are trying to show.

So here goes.

If your design in made so that the red masses afford more weight on one side then the other in order to push the revolutions, it will not work and you can see this right on the design how the weights will translate in the next movement.

Top right - increase
Center - Right - decrease
Bottom right - decrease
Bottom left - decrease
Center left - increase
Top left - increase....... So the left side wins.

In your design, the mass is in small wheels and this will kill any ability to exert any type of real leverage on the big wheel. Also those red masses would have to be 3-4 times bigger to actually make any real difference on the whole mass of the wheels.

Six wheels with gears means there is at least 2-3 teeth engaged at all times per wheel, so in total you have 12-15 teeth engaged in the system. This alone is a killer.

Also your teeth design shows you need more experience with gears since they do not engage in the angles you have shown. Look up gears, teeth, pitch angle, etc.

Now here's the hardest part. Every wheel in the system would have to be perfectly balanced, including the outer wheel. Also the outer wheel will have to be secured somehow in another sliding mechanism to keep it in place and this will also add to friction.

So all in all, I would say DO NOT BUILD THIS this way. You will need to do alot of homework first and especially when you do one drawing, you have to do many more in different angles to see how the balance ratio is over at least every 2 degrees for at least 45-90 degrees. That's 20 to 40 drawings.

Hope I'm not coming on too hard on you. Having ideas is great, and knowing when to stop is also great. If one of these is out of sync, guys run into problems and all waste time.