Bedini replication in Germany

[TheOne]

. I know it is not supposed to work but Mr Bedini must be doing it on the big machine he has built or it would be worthless.

One of the first Bedini device switch between batteries, in the ENERGY FROM THE VACUUM DVD, he show the device, the main rotor move another one and this other rotor is the mecanical switch used to switch the batteries, the batteries switch on each 1.5 secs prox.

[Ren]

Hi Albert. Nice work! good to see someone else replicating and testing. Heres some pics of some recent test machines I have built. I havnt been able to do many tests yet as I am waiting to get some decent batteries. The window motor I converted to the Bedini cole circuit and looks promising. I have to build a timing wheel to switch between running and discharging back into the primary. In regards to swapping batteries, it is not recommended to swap the charged battery to the front end on the simple ssg circuit. That circuit was designed to teach the basic principles. It is far more beneficial to use the charged battery on another load to see the benefits. What you will want to replicate is the cdpulser setup, (capacitive discharge) and it can be found in a few places on the web. There are different versions, but they all do basically the same thing. The simplest has a timing wheel that dumps the energy stored in the capacitor into the charging bank at a set rate. There is also a 555 timer circuit designed to automatically do this.

Look forward to seeing some more of your work!

P.S. I made my coils identically to yours! PVC sheath, acrylic top/bottom, tie wire glued as a core. I had to twist all my wire by hand however, that was not fun

[albert]

Hi Ren,

you make beautiful machines! I want to hide mine inthe cellar when I see them.....but anyway this first one is just a test bed.

GLUE question to everybody:  My aluminum rotor has arrived. It has 6 milled slots to hold the magnets, two stacked in a row per slot. For me and others building the same device here in Munich, the big question now is the glue to hold the magnets in place. As this thing should go to speeds around 3000 rpm, there is no room for error here. Any idea would be appreciated. Unfortunately the magnets have quite a tolerance so I had to file out the slots to fit them in. This prevents me from doing what I originally wanted to do, holding the magnets in by pressure. I had planned to heat the rotor, put the magnets in the deepfreeze for a while and fit them in under pressure.
I plan to try the capacitor setup with this new rotor. The hub turns on this one and the stub can be used to run the mechanical switch.
The idea to switch the batteries every few seconds is also interesting. Definitely worth trying.

Looking forward to see more of your work! Does the window coil generate enough current to charge a battery? Usually they deliver some volts but the current is extremely weak....

Here's another view of a coil set into the machine.



Albert

[bourne]

Hi albert

About the 'swapping batteries', here is my take on the matter;

When Mr Bedini shows the large machine in the DVD you see 2 sets of very large cells in the main workshop area with the machine on a bench in a smaller room. Now, I have presumed that the batteries driving the large machine are on the shelf 'below' the large machine. The two sets out in the workshop are swapped between; one set under load (lighting the lights in his workshop) and one set being charged (cylinder cells in the DVD)
After watching the DVD several times I now think the Bedini machine is a "power magnifier". Swap 2 sets of batteries between charge and load. While the same is happening with the 'supply batteries', one of the pair driving the large machine while the second one gets charged by a smaller machine which has it's own pair of supply batteries which again could be charged with an even smaller machine.. and so on until all you need to charge your smallest machine is a single solar panel

Does that make sense? That's how I would do it. Either that or use the available shaft power to charge the second supply battery conventionally.

I think the swapping front to back will only give you the shaft power as spare. Swapping 2 batteries between charge and load will give you use of the battery power and the shaft power.
It all depends how much charge you can get out of the coils.

I only have a single bifilar coil to work with at the moment so I can't say if another coil (trifilar) means half the charge time. I do hope so.

As for the glue mentioned in your last post.... Don't know ! My max RPM has only been 230rpm so the superglue is still holding solid. An Epoxy type glue would be my first thought but I would have to see the spec sheets on its performance.
I remember somewhere in the Yahoo groups monopole forum, somebody posted some calculations of an 8oz magnet coming off a 20cm diameter rotor spinning at 10,000rpm.

Conclusion..... Do not be in the same room!!

If I remember correctly it was something like 3 times the joules of a colt 45 shot at close range !!

You also mention the tolerance of the magnets. I had the same thing, but fortunately I had to buy a minimum of 50 so I just picked the best 32.
Have you thought about weight distribution? do all your magnets weigh the same if they are different sizes? I think that will make a big difference at 3000 rpm.

As for switching batteries every 1.5 seconds see below.

. I know it is not supposed to work but Mr Bedini must be doing it on the big machine he has built or it would be worthless.

One of the first Bedini device switch between batteries, in the ENERGY FROM THE VACUUM DVD, he show the device, the main rotor move another one and this other rotor is the mecanical switch used to switch the batteries, the batteries switch on each 1.5 secs prox.

Hi The One, I am sure you are wrong. that machine is the capacitor dump machine. It is constantly charging the large capacitor which is then dumped into the charging battery every 1.5 seconds. Separate from its supply batteries. Using the commutator as shown in J Bedini's 1984 book (reprinted in Tom Beardens "free energy generation")

[hansvonlieven]

Hi Ren,

you make beautiful machines! I want to hide mine inthe cellar when I see them.....but anyway this first one is just a test bed.

GLUE question to everybody:  My aluminum rotor has arrived. It has 6 milled slots to hold the magnets, two stacked in a row per slot. For me and others building the same device here in Munich, the big question now is the glue to hold the magnets in place. As this thing should go to speeds around 3000 rpm, there is no room for error here. Any idea would be appreciated. Unfortunately the magnets have quite a tolerance so I had to file out the slots to fit them in. This prevents me from doing what I originally wanted to do, holding the magnets in by pressure. I had planned to heat the rotor, put the magnets in the deepfreeze for a while and fit them in under pressure.
I plan to try the capacitor setup with this new rotor. The hub turns on this one and the stub can be used to run the mechanical switch.
The idea to switch the batteries every few seconds is also interesting. Definitely worth trying.

Looking forward to see more of your work! Does the window coil generate enough current to charge a battery? Usually they deliver some volts but the current is extremely weak....

Here's another view of a coil set into the machine.



Albert

G'day Albert,

As far as the glue is concerned I recommend a product known as Sikaflex. It is available in boating stores and marinas and is unbelievably strong while having an enormous amount of flex. It is akin to a silicone compound commonly used to glue glass but much stronger. If that does not hold it nothing else will. It is probably marketed in countries other than Australia under a different name. The stuff sticks to just about anything.

Her is a local link to their product range. I recommend the single component compound. Application is with a standard caulking gun.

http://www.sika.com.au/cmi/marine_products.htm

I use the stuff extensively where strength and flexibility is paramount. It is a stiff paste and has excellent padding properties, something you need by the sound of it.

If you have further questions drop me a note.

Hans von Lieven