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Magnetism the myth

Started by allcanadian, December 18, 2007, 08:39:18 PM

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allcanadian

You may find this interesting, there is no such thing as magnetism ;) just like tesla said, Its all electric baby yea!

Quote:
"Maxwell?s formulation, however, eliminated consideration of the angular component of the force between current elements. It also removed the most fundamental of Amp?re?s assumptions?the unity of electricity and magnetism?by introducing the concept of a magnetic field. There is no magnetic field in any of the writings of Amp?re, nor of his successors in electrodynamics, Carl Friedrich Gauss, Wilhelm Weber, and Bernhard Riemann. Magnetism, for them, is considered an epiphenomenon of electricity; it is the force of electrodynamic attraction or repulsion acting between circuits of electricity, called magnetic molecules (and which came to be known later as electrons)."
@http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/edit.html

or maybe this?
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"The discovery of the phenomena of electrical and magnetic induction had introduced a new element into the considerations of electrical law, not taken up in Amp?re's 1826 work. There thus existed, side by side, three seemingly valid descriptions of the electrical interaction: (1) the Coulomb-Poisson law, describing the interaction of two electrical masses at rest; (2) the Amp?re law, describing the interaction of elements of moving electricity, and: (3) a description of the laws of induction, elaborated by Emil Lenz and Franz Neumann. In his Fundamental Electrical Law, stated in 1846, Weber achieved the unification of these various phenomena under a single conception.

Instead of the mathematical entities, described as current elements by Amp?re, Weber hypothesized the existence within the conductor of positive and negative electrical particles. He assumed that the presence of an electrical tension caused these particles to move at equal velocities in opposite directions. If one regards an Amp?re current element as containing, at any given instant, a positive and a negative electrical particle, passing each other, then in the pairwise relationship of two current elements, there are four interactions to be considered. By the Coulomb law, these interactions, consisting of two repulsions and two attractions, cancel each other. However, the elementary experiments of Amp?re had shown that a motion is produced between the wires, implying the existence of a force not described by the Coulomb law. For example, two parallel conducting wires attract each other when the current in the two wires flows in the same direction, and repel each other when the opposite is the case. The situation is perfectly well explained under the Amp?re force law, when one takes into account the angular relationship of the respective current elements. However, Weber's unifying approach was to assume that the relative velocities of the electrical particles produced a modification in the Coulomb electrostatic force, to produce the resultant force between the wires. Considering all the configurations which Amp?re had examined, as well as those arising from the phenomena of induction, he was able to formulate a general statement of the Fundamental Electrical Law. This showed that the general law describing the force of interaction of two electrical particles, depends upon the relative velocities and the relative accelerations of the particles. The Coulomb electrostatic law thus becomes a special case of Weber's general law, when the particles are at relative rest."
@http://chem.ch.huji.ac.il/history/weber.html


So really magnetism doesn't exist it is electric, a Permanent Magnet is nothing more than moving electric charges held in alignment in matter. The scientific community is covering up Maxwells screwup, and we all know you can't give a nobel prize to a screwup, that would be embarrasing. :D
As well Wilhelm Eduard Weber and homopolar generator are two words no physicist wants to hear.

I have seen the devil and looked into his eyes and his name was vanity.
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

z_p_e

For those interested, A. K. T. Assis has written dozens of papers mostly based on Weber's electrodynamics.



http://www.ifi.unicamp.br/~assis/wpapers.htm

not_a_mib

An attempt at this sort of thing was posted a few months ago.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2485.0.html
It gives a direct force-law between moving charges.

Mr.Entropy

In the excellent book "Causality, Electromagnetic Induction and Gravitation", Jefimenko shows that Maxwell's equations aren't entirely accurate, and, more importantly, don't describe the actual causes of the electromagnetic forces.

http://www.amazon.com/Causality-Electromagnetic-Induction-Gravitation-Gravitational/dp/0917406230

http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/more/596cemi.htm

He also develops what have become known as Jefimenko's equations, which show how to correctly calculate these forces from the motions of electrons:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefimenko's_equations

In the book, he gives various equivalent formulations, including ones that don't make any use at all of a magnetic field.

Most important is that all of these formulations are causal -- nothing needs to measure fields instantaneously at a far-away points the way Maxwell's surface integrals do.

Other notable things in the book include a causal development and physical interpretation of the magnetic vector potential, and a fascinating explanation of how the conservation of momentum requires gravity to work a lot more like electricity than we thought it did.

Cheers,

Mr. Entropy

nightlife

Entropy, "Jefimenko shows that Maxwell's equations aren't entirely accurate, and, more importantly, don't describe the actual causes of the electromagnetic forces."

Let me explain it for you then. A magnetic field is nothing more then a spinning frequency creating a vacuum that has only a resistance to its self as both a positive and a negative. Therefore, creating a positive, being the suction and a negative being the exhaust.

It does however have a resistance to iron cores, some stronger then others. That resistance is only a positive resistance causing the attraction.

That?s my theory. Now go to the thread "What is electricity?"

It's amazing what a 9th grade drop out can teach you. That?s 100% pure common sense and nothing more.     

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