How to produce electricity

[Localjoe]

That was it Thank you  and if anyone is wondering THAT KANE IS FREQUENCY WHICH ELECTRONS SPACE SHUTTLE into orbit . Thank you

[nightlife]

If that is true, then you are referring to a electron as a substance and one substance can not flow thru another. The only other thing you could be think of it as is another frequency or if you are out in left field, you may think of it as a spirit. LOL

[Koen1]

I must agree with hans that

hansvonlieven, the frequencies are the same and the only difference is a sound has been added and they are weak. Cable TV, speaker wires and telephone wires are all examples of how they are the same. The only difference is the quantity and what is added to it.

does not make much sense. Or as Hans put it 

@nightlife: can you explain what you mean? To recap: Hans had just explained how frequencies, electricity, and magnetism are related to a degree, but are not
in fact always related and can often be observed as seperate entities. This is a clear contrast to the assertion that electricity and magnetism are exactly the same,
and to the assertion that electricity, magnetism, and frequency are always connected to eachother in all situations.
Now, I can accept a view in which the Tacoma Bridge, presented as a nice example of physical oscillation without electromagnetism involved, is seen as a very large structure of intermolecular and interatomic bonds, which all have resonant frequencies relatd to their atomic makeups, is exposed to frequencies that disrupt said bonds, thereby weakening the structural integrity of the entire bridge structure, and causing it to collapse... But the problem is that the resonant frequencies are only partly dependant on the resonant frequencies of the building materials. Of equal if not greater importance is the exact geometry of the structure and its parts. Besides that, if the intermolecular/interatomic bonds were broken in the entire structure, one would expect that to happen over the entire structure, and one might expect the bridge to explode into a cloud of vapour. That does not happen, instead the structure shakes apart into smaller pieces, not into a cloud of excited atoms...
Another nice example is the Erasmus Bridge in Rotterdam (Netherlands). This bridge looks somewhat like a big harp, and sure enough when it was freshly built and hit by the first strong winds (Rotterdam is one of the worlds biggest harbours, wind is not at all uncommon there ) the "strings" of the big "harp" would start to vibrate in the wind.
That did not immediately cause the bridge to oscillate like mad and collapse, but it did cause quite loud noise and some shuddering of the bridge surface. Carefull calculations finally showed how the bridge "strings" were sensitive to wind speeds in a certain range, and the addition of some weights and some additional reinforcement in a few specific places altered the structures resonant frequency so that it no longer acts as an oversized harp in strong wind.
Never ever was there any electromagnetic effect, but the air pressure waves (=sound) certainly were there. Another example of freq without em.
Or how about an "acoustic"/"classical"/"spanish" guitar? Lots of vibrations at various frequencies, no em.

And about this "two sides to electricity and magnetism" idea;
So if I understand you correctly you are saying there are 2 elements that combine into what we know as electricity, and also two elements that combine to make magnetism? Let's start with the electricity, and we can include magnetism later.
Are you talking about the two different "poles" here? Or are you talking about two flows of energy, one from positive to negative and the other from negative to positive, that supplement eachother and combine into what we know as the "electric field" (with two "poles" but only one "flux")?
You see, quite a few people have this idea that electricity and magnetism are two sides of the same coin; that a flow of electrons is surrounded by a magnetic flux, and that this already is the system with two "opposing" flows (although technically the magnetic field is always at 90 degrees to the electric field, and this could be considered to be angular but not opposing. However, Lorentz and emf effects do cause (temporarily) reversed flows, albeit not always at exactly the same time.) But if I understand what you seem to be saying correctly, you're saying that yes, there is this 90 degree coupling of electric and magnetic fields, but there is also an energy flow that consists of 2 opposing flows?
Now, assuming that you do consider the movement of electrons through a wire from the "positive pole" (emitting negative electrical charge) to the "negative pole" (absorbing said negative electrical charge) to be DC,
where do you see this second energy flow taking place?
Assuming you do consider this flow of electrons to be one of these two energy flows in the wire, and considering the fact that any form of electical wave (in a wire) is viewed as a transverse wave form, and taking into account that moving electrons in any material encounter "friction" (resistance) and cause the material to heat up,
may I then extrapolate that this second and opposite energy flow has opposing characteristics? So then this opposing energy flow might have a wave form that is longtitudional (and thus undetectable), and the opposing "anti-electron" energy flow might also not cause the material to heat up but rather cool down...
This sounds a lot like the "negative energy" Bearden and friends talk about...

How do you see this?
And how do you propose we utilise this effectively?
How exactly does it help to switch this view 90 degrees and turn everything into magnets? That doesn't really change much, does it?
After all, if we know electricity and magnetism are interchangeable, and we do, then we might as well rewrite the entire "everything is magnets"
idea to "everything is elecrons", right?
Again, please explain.

Have you heard of the "open path" of dr. Kron? Or do you know about Gray?
They both used a model of electricity that allowed for an opposite energy flow, and implemented it in devices, sometimes with interesting results.
Grays' "splitting the positive" technology uses this approach, using two seperate paths for the energy to traverse, one of which was wired as usual, and one of which was wired in a peculiar way and seems to allow energy to flow in the opposite direction.
In fact, it is my personal contention that Kron, Gray, Bedini and most likely Tesla as well knew/know and utilise(d) the same principles.
You may want to take a look at this thread, where I plonked down some more about Krons negative resistor circuitry: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4004.0/topicseen.html

If anyone has any good comments, additions, suggestions, or ideas about this stuff, please do post them!
This could be a very interesting thread...

[nightlife]

Koen1, I am sorry but I have been away for awhile but I am now back and I will try to get back to my idiotic way of thinking. Please bear with me as I freshen up on my thoughts.

I am stuck with thinking that electricity is nothing more then a flow of resistance because you can not have one with out the other. The stronger the flow of resistance, the more powerful the electricity is. I also can not see electricity being anything other then a vibration wave. I for one can not agree with what is considered as a electron because I can not see one solid item passing through another and the only thing I can believe that can do that is a harmonic oscillation. harmonic oscillations can be passed through the air or through wire. The same can be done with electricity.
Something else I have stuck in my head is that you can not have a flow of resistance without creating a harmonic oscillation.

I used the word frequency's before thinking they were sound waves but I learned that they are actually just a measurement of the number of cycles, or periods, per unit time of rotations, oscillations, or waves,.

You talked about the bridge and how it just fall apart opposed to disincarnating into dust. I believe that is because of all the different materials in the structure of the bridge and I also believe that each substance has it's own harmonic oscillation of structure and that it would take all the substances harmonic oscillations to be present to make it disincarnate or explode. That would also be a problem because of the substances around the bridge because some of those substances make up part of the bridge.

I am trying to remember where I was with my thoughts on what makes a magnet what it is and act the way it does.

Please again bear with my ignorance and I will get back to this topic after I get my thoughts back in order, if that is even possible. LOL

[Koen1]

Koen1, I am sorry but I have been away for awhile but I am now back and I will try to get back to my idiotic way of thinking. Please bear with me as I freshen up on my thoughts.

Ok, but I'm going to reply to some of your remarks anyway.

I am stuck with thinking that electricity is nothing more then a flow of resistance because you can not have one with out the other.

Well I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but what about superconductive materials then? They have perfect conductivity = zero resistance, yet there is electricity and electron flow. One without the other.

The stronger the flow of resistance, the more powerful the electricity is.

Err... But resistance doesn't move, it is a quality of the material... It is due to imperfections in the crystalline matrix of the material, into which the moving electrons
"collide", which disrupts the flow of electrons a little bit, and transforms some of the electron motion into heat. It's the electrons that are hindered in their flow path by the
imperfections in the matrix, and this effective resistance is directly related to the resistivity of the material matrix. The more powerful the current, the greater the effective resistance at a given material resistivity.

I also can not see electricity being anything other then a vibration wave. I for one can not agree with what is considered as a electron because I can not see one solid item passing through another and the only thing I can believe that can do that is a harmonic oscillation.

Who's talking about solid items passing through others? Electrons are so small that what to our human eyes lookslike a very solid material, can be extremely porous for the tiny electrons. And that's using the classical electrodynamic model of an electron as a tiny particle. Quantumelectrodynamics generally works with electron "clouds" and not discrete electrons moving in discrete orbits. That introduces a whole range of quantum waveforms that describe the electron cloud system, a complex wave structure that "collapses" into one specific situation at the moment of observation. In that view, there is no such thing as a solid electron particle moving through an atomic matrix like a ball rolling through a vapour cloud or anything like that. And of course it has long been known that all force interactions must take place via photons, as photons are the only energy carrier that exchanges forces. So whatever happens with the electrons, the actual exchange of energy must at some point happen through photon interchange.
And photons are funny little buggers. They have no mass, they can pass straight through eachother, they always have the speed of light, even with respect to eachother, and they are not particles but waves and at the same time they are not waves but particles. Weird? Yes. That's quantum for you. Very unclassical and highly non-newtonian, and severely unintuitive. 

harmonic oscillations can be passed through the air or through wire. The same can be done with electricity.
Something else I have stuck in my head is that you can not have a flow of resistance without creating a harmonic oscillation.

I'm not sure where you're going with this... I fail to understand how you see resistance flow in the first place, and I also fail to see what
this would have to do with harmonic oscillations.

I used the word frequency's before thinking they were sound waves but I learned that they are actually just a measurement of the number of cycles, or periods, per unit time of rotations, oscillations, or waves,.

indeed. In any medium too. And basically they can be of any form too. It's just a frequency, it doesn't automatically apply only to sound or electricity or whatever. If I spit on the ground every second, I'm producing a 1Hz spit signal. If I think about ice cream 10 times a second, I am producing a 10Hz ice cream thought "wave".

You talked about the bridge and how it just fall apart opposed to disincarnating into dust. I believe that is because of all the different materials in the structure of the bridge and I also believe that each substance has it's own harmonic oscillation of structure and that it would take all the substances harmonic oscillations to be present to make it disincarnate or explode. That would also be a problem because of the substances around the bridge because some of those substances make up part of the bridge.

Hey now that makes some sense.
It's a way to look at it, I suppose... Not half bad.