Testatika Vertical Rods mystery

[Bwise2da]

  Behind the Testatika devices you always see 2 tall vertical tubes with obvious shielding. There have been many ideas concerning their use and function, and I have yet another to propose. Since Paul Baumann was a skilled timepiece maker, it is safe to say that everything on the device has a specific shape for a reason. The tall tubes are very unusual in terms of shape. That shape is not typical for a coil or inductor. The same inductance could be achieved so much easier with a smaller winding, such as an antenna coil in RF. I am wondering if instead they could be dual Zamboni Piles. Zamboni Piles are a high voltage battery that is constantly recharged with ambient aether current. By placing them close to the discs, they would of course remain fully charged even though shielded. They also could supply HV pulses to the discs to keep them turning. Take a look at the 30kw testatika photo, and you see the 2 massive tubes that add credence to my theory on this matter.

[hansvonlieven]

G'day Bwise2da and all,

These kind of batteries are well known and use known principles. They do NOT extract energy from the ether. These batteries WILL RUN DOWN over time. The kind of gadgets they were driving use only microscopic amounts of energy, hence they were able to operate for a hundred years or so. I believe all of these early devices have now stopped. The batteries are dead.

Hans von Lieven

[Bwise2da]

Hans,

I must disagree with you on the zamboni piles. When you stack alternating discs of galvanic metals separated by a dielectric, (like copper and aluminum), a terminal voltage suddenly appears, without charging the device from a power supply source. This is also the identical situation concerning the earth battery devices, many are just rediscovering. Power may be extracted and it replenishes itself as if by magic. They never do "run down" as a typical chemical storage battery does. I submit that this energy is certainly by way of aether currents, radiant energy, or call them by any name of your liking. They are still free as such. Also, when you stack several hundred of these in a tall tube fashion, the result is thousands of volts of potential say greater  than 4kv. Even at tiny current draws, potentials of that magnitude could give a plastic disc a powerful kick here and now, and possibly keep it spinning. It is also not unreasonable to conceive of them not being utterly depleted especially in the midst of such a powerful electrostatic field. Oleg Jeffimenko's book on electrostatic motors is very revealing on this matter. It is only a guess and theory that the testatika might be using these high voltage 100 yr.+ batteries. The limiting factor of their life is directly proportional to the thickness of the plates themselves. Also, the Plexiglas plates in between the horseshoe magnets have the same idea, namely copper and aluminum foil separated by thick Plexiglas dielectric spacers. The whole thing is in the strong electrostatic field emanating from the discs, and I think that energy field is part of the equation.

[hansvonlieven]

Sorry mate,

I disagree. This is NOT an electrostatic battery by any stretch of the imagination. Only because the voltage is high, that does not make it electrostatic. It was called that, I agree, but this does not make it so.

I am quoting here Bill Beaty who says it here perhaps much better than I could:

The Duluc Dry-Pile (also called the Zamboni Pile) was an "electrostatic battery" permanent power supply used in the early 1800s and constructed from silver foil, zinc foil, and paper. Foil disks of 2cm dia. were stacked up several thousand thick and then either compressed in a glass tube with endcaps and a screw assembly, or stacked between three glass rods with wooden endplates. Of course this is simply a Voltaic Pile, a multi-cell electrochemical battery, albeit one with output potential in the range of kilovolts. Each cell used nearly-dry paper as electrolyte, with zinc foil for one electrode and silver foil as the other.

Source:  http://amasci.com/emotor/duluc.html

Hamns von Lieven

[Bwise2da]

Hans,

In the same article you just quoted, I just cut these words out:

A second device by Zamboni was a perpetually rotating "Franklin's wheel" electrostatic motor powered by two dry piles.

Can you not see the even remote possibility of a connection here?

Too many of us in the study of these OU/FE devices get hung up on semantics and definitions that NO ONE really knows for sure what they mean. The following terms are entirely interchangeble with one another referring to the EXACT same phenonmenom:

Atmospheric electricity
Aether energy
Static Electricity
Radiant Energy
Electrostatic energy

Concerning the Zamboni dry pile perpetual batteries, if it makes youi queasy to use one of the above terms to describe a self-charging battery of this design, then I place upon you the burden of describing just WHERE this energy constantly is replenished from? Remember, it is only a variation of the Zamboni that uses moist cloth between the discs, most of them are completely dry, hence the name "dry pile". I state this to distiguish them clearly from the traditional chemical storage cells we all are familiar with that require external charging from a man-made voltage source.

G'day & Bwise2da