Muller Dynamo

[k4zep]

Hi Gang,

There are enough theories around to float the Titanic, I hope all are building as much as they are theorizing!. 

But..The more I work on my unit, the more I realize there is an incredible
amount of work to bring this motor/generator on line if you want to have a presentable unit.  I probably won't finish mine before the
end of June.  Whether it works or not, I want to be able to put it on a shelf and say, wow. 

Anyway I guess I'm a puddle futz as I'm making my own diode bridges encapsulated, building an encapsulated driver circuit that is adjustable in a presentable fashion. Then I must make a vertical stand so rotors can operate with side loading on bearings as I'm not using thrust bearings but very good ceramic high speed bearings and it goes on and on.

Just to build the coils, I have to epoxy glue the cores in the 18 bobbins, turn the bobbin center down for maximum wire on the bobbin, precision cut all the cores to the same length,  Turn and thread the 18 axu. bias magnet holders to fit the 1/4-20 nylon adjusting screws.  Thread all those holes, Putter, Putter, Putter!  Anyway, having fun.

Now back to work.

Ben K4ZEP

[Tudi]

Today, after many attempts to call to speak to Romero he finally answered me.
First he said that I should not reposted the picture he removed previously but didn't say why.
Now about the muller setup:
Very important is that at voltage lower than 6 volts the device worked for a while then slowly looses rpm, with or without load. He also mentioned that the generator has a low and a high limit in rpm where it behaves good. He said that muller replication started few years back but only recently after learning and understanding more tricks he went back to it and tried to improve it.
When I asked him about the secret in his design he said that even himself could not understand it all. The person that scared him reffered to this Muller design only and didn't care about other type of devices he might build in the future, but not this design. Why???
He also asked me not to call again.
Now, I don't know what to say is it real or not?

Well, i posted some info why there is a low and high operation RPM, there is a min and max load the device can take. At this point i'm so convinced that this device might work that i actually ordered the magnets( 500$ ( 200$ the shipment ) ). I hope that the pro guys will be enough motivated to be able to come up with a version they can fully describe so others may reproduce it ( there is an insane amount of parameters here, but it sounds doable for me )
Been reading different theories all week ( as my time permits ) and the most common thing in them is the frequency of the magnetic field resonance that must be tuned to your load. All the rest are just for the sake of reducing the losses.

[Tudi]

just another quote from turtur : " the energy in the coil must go back to zero within every revolution, because there has to be a moment in every turn of the magnet, during which the coil does not produce any magnetic field. This is necessary, because  the magnetic field has to be switched on and off periodically, otherwise it would not be possible to convert zero-point energy "
Translation : the distance between the coils needs to be large enough that your "very strong" PM magnetic field does not reach from 1 coil to another. As in romerouk strange large distance between the coils and the magnets trying to compensate the lack of distance between the coils by forcing the coils to be more distant to the magnets.

Ofc, based on theory and not practice !

[powercat]

Here is the swedish entry,
from oglundasotarn

muller....AVI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72KmCbts7Vs&feature=channel_video_title
Lidmotor / muller dynamo with Reed. five 10mm neodymium magnets and four pairs of coils, the generator coils yields about 2.5 v. but the LED lights up probably most of the flyback. this is interesting enough to continue with, so now some hallefect will be purchased.

[Magluvin]

You donated $42 to Rat Shack for that ?  C'mon Mags have you got too much money?  Okay, just had to tease a bit but I think they over rated that if they are claiming 2.5 amps since the DC-DC converter chips is rated max at 1.6 amps and nothing in those pics looks like it would handle much more than that. 

  I think what would be better is one of the DC-DC converters with an LM2596 in it and there are a bunch of them on fleaBay for around $5 to $10 and fully adjustable.  They are components just on a PCB so not in a box but then neither is yours ... now.     The LM2596 is rated either 3 Amps but it is definitely beefier than the H34063AP.  There's another LM259x something that I think is 5 Amps but don't remember the last number.

hey E

Well in a later post I stated there is a mosfet smd. I had to find my eye piece to read it. The dc to dc drives the fet.
So the 2.5A is correct.

Has Romero measured the current of the output of the dc-dc while in self run?  It may only need the dc-dc ic for our purposes.

I was at the shack last night before closing to get some cable for a job I was working on, and when asked, "do you need anything else" it clicked and I looked and I bought.
Its just an alternative. And you can get it TODAY, no shipping.

And maybe if the dc-dc chip is enough to work here, eliminating all the other parts in the RS unit, it may lower the idle currents more.  Dunno. Just ideas.

I had realized that this was something that I could have used on previous projects that may have been useful in conversions.

Mags