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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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TEKTRON

Quote from: Loner on May 26, 2011, 05:25:43 AM
Just a Quick Info Post.  Drew up Rotor in Inch measurements, in case it hadn't been posted.  (I couldn't find it.  Hope this isn't a repeat.

Also Ran toolpaths through Post Processor, Generic FANUC G-Code, in three parts.  Mount Part on edges, on wood, etc.  Run Drill with 1/4 Inch Drill, then run Pockets.  Mount via center hole and run Outside to cut out rotor.

If you understand that, it should be enough.  If more info is desired, just ask and I'll try to reply ASAP.  (Day or two, I'm slow.)

Hope this is useful to someone.


Thanks Loner, I know it will be, I have a long time friend with a shop that can use this info and zip them out. 8) 8) 8) ;D ;D ;D ;D

i_ron

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on May 26, 2011, 04:17:08 AM
This video link has been posted and related to that person Rod, whose whereabouts are being discussed on the previous page.
Since he has a highly commercial interest, there is near zero chance that he
will give any free information about his device.

This thread is getting too long, suffers the same fate like the Kapanadze thread
where on page 200,300 and 400 the same video links that have been already posted on page 100 get repeatedly posted. :/

I have to agree!

Here we are 3 weeks into the build and all sorts of theories and diversions but the basic build criteria not addressed.

The first observation is that the RPM does not alter when the device is run in it's rather narrow load window. In fact the only time the RPM changes is when the voltage to the drive coils is lowered, or an out of range load connected.

For this to happen means that the generator portion is lenzless!

Until we find out how to build a lenzless generator (dynamo) we are all "up the creek"

I have not achieved this in my build. If those of you who know how to do this would post their results it would certainly further this forum.

I speak of agamendon, Ben maybe?, Peter L, who say such things as, "when half the load moves back into the generator..."  etc etc

Ron

JouleSeeker

Quote from: e2matrix on May 26, 2011, 12:45:43 AM
@JouleSeeker,  Rod Clark phone number is 513-479-0011  as per his craigslist ad for the Mercedes which is dated 5-17-2011.  It would be interesting to have him on here to get a feel for what he had (or has).

  Thanks, E2M -- I called that number, and its phone-box is full... Apparently others are trying to call him also.
But I'll keep on trying to reach him.
Meanwhile, my colleague and I are starting a build inspired by both Rod and RomeroUK. 

nul-points

Quote from: i_ron on May 26, 2011, 10:56:30 AM
[...]
Here we are 3 weeks into the build and all sorts of theories and diversions but the basic build criteria not addressed.

hi Ron

which build criteria do you believe have not been addressed by the video and the questions answered by Romero?


Quote from: i_ron
The first observation is that the RPM does not alter when the device is run in it's rather narrow load window. In fact the only time the RPM changes is when the voltage to the drive coils is lowered, or an out of range load connected.

the motor drive is stabilised by the DC converter -  if the load is increased or decreased, within limits, then the converter will compensate for the change and attempt to keep the drive level constant (& therefore the speed unchanged)


Quote from: i_ron
[...]
Until we find out how to build a lenzless generator (dynamo) we are all "up the creek"
[...]
Ron

hasn't Romero just shown us how to build such a generator?

he hasn't given us much detail on tuning the device - but that's a different issue!


Romero reported an Efficiency of 105% with all FWBR o/ps paralled into the buffer cap (and no stator mags)

his data showed that adding the stator mags increased the Efficiency to 200%

i think these two facts alone tell us where we need to focus our attention in order to achieve similar results to him


all the best
np


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Ron
I was holding off on my own build for just that very information! What about this generator could make it Lenzless?

Everyone seems to think that just pushing a magnet close to the coils causes some type of magic, but this is simply a normal generator configuration. To reduce the lenz effect somehow the load needs to be applied from the stationary magnet to reduce the drag on the rotor.
At the point where the coil is centered between two rotor magnets, the stator magnet will push thru to the opposing coil because the field between the two rotor magnets flows in the same direction as the stator magnets at this point.
It may be required to raise the stator coils away from the rotor and then raise or lower the stator magnet to get the correct response.
I can really see no other effect to reduce the lenz forces since just moving closer to the rotor increases output be also increases the lenz drag.

???