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Muller Dynamo

Started by Schpankme, December 31, 2007, 10:48:41 PM

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e2matrix

Quote from: bolt on June 13, 2011, 06:06:41 PM
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Gosh I think that's the first post by bolt I've been able to totally get my head around  :)

I've got an idea for all the (lots and lots) of old hard drive magnets I've got that are mounted on Mu metal (or so it appears in most cases).  I've got a good metal bandsaw and I thought about cutting the Mu metal pieces into strips about wide enough to put 3 or 4 into a coil core.  I think I could probably get about 2 cores per piece of Mu metal.  This band saw has been good for even cutting thick Titanium so I don't think it will have any problem cutting the Mu metal.  Does anyone see any problems with this idea?  It will be a slow process but a couple hours of cutting I think will yield enough for all the coils.  They would probably be a 1/8" x 1/8" x coil length (about 5/8" long) and I think I'd tape several together for each core. 

d@rkenergy

Quote from: nul-points on June 13, 2011, 04:47:56 PM
hi d@rkenergy

that's a neat circuit!  (ESP is a good site)

i think that maybe not too good for the Muller replication, for at least 2 possible reasons:

a) it uses the gen/drive coil as the sensor - so it will not be possible to do much 'tuning' of the 'ON' pulse (especially to get 'attraction')

b) the supply is only 1.5V (and also the PNP transistor maybe too low-powered) - so there will not be much drive power


but the circuit is like an SCR - so it should give good switching action for a pendulum device

maybe on a small Muller replication you could get it to drive - but still not much adjustment  :(

all the best
np


http://docsfreelunch.blogspot.com

Thank you very much for the reply. :)
  I wish  success...

bolt

Quote from: lumen on June 13, 2011, 06:33:24 PM
The problem is that at a PF of zero, that is also how much energy you produce! This is simply a full resonate condition where you are simply reinforcing a standing wave. Any attempt to use this energy will cause the system to fall from the resonate condition.

It is more than likely that there is something else going on. With the load applied after the FWB and some voltage already stored in the load capacitor, this alters the start of the resonate wave with some delay. If the power factor was not exactly zero, then the push against the approaching rotor magnet (lenz drag) would be late, and applied at TDC to the rotor magnet.

Now there would be a real power factor that energy can be pulled from,  yet the lenz force is pushing directly on the rotor magnet and there is no place for it to go but out in the same direction as the rotor is turning.
This condition could do real work, and additional loading of the output would push the rotor faster.

In full resonance NO WORK IS DONE only the waveform gets larger because you keep adding to it!

If you draw any work from it greater than the input, it will simply die out. Even if you draw the same from it as you put in, it will die out. Nothing new here.

You know what? I think you are right. Non of the OU looping systems that use this principle are real and there are more than 6 that I personally know about ranging from 100 watts to over 2kw OU RV systems  plus Thrapps 900 watt generator.
It must be all a dream :)

Sh$t now what we going to do?  The world is doomed its all been a lie.. :(

Perhaps we should sell everything on ebay and buy some extra candles and matches instead for when the lights go out.

Magneticitist

regarding the Romero design, where are the backspikes going? and if they are not going anywhere, then it has to be factored in that the gen coils are receiving them since they are facing the drives.

chrisC

Quote from: bolt on June 13, 2011, 07:00:43 PM
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It must be all a dream :)

Sh$t now what we going to do?  The world is doomed its all been a lie.. :(

Perhaps we should sell everything on ebay and buy some extra candles and matches instead for when the lights go out.

haha. Good one bolt. Some people will never believe the world is not flat even if they saw it in space!

cheers
chrisC