Power ratio over one

[handyguy1]

Hay Gyula:
Thanks for the input. The reason I ask about extraordinary proof is just for demonstration purposes only. I would like to light up enough LEDs using a 1.2 volt 550mA AA cell, to make the observer say ?that?s impossible?, there MUST be a hidden power source!
I just ordered 500 more LEDs. It takes a week or so to get them. I have everything apart right now so next week I?ll get you a chart using a 1 ohm resistor.
David

[handyguy1]

Hay Stefan:

I will have new data logger shots next week.  91 diodes in parallel is not a typo. I forgot to mention I had one LED in series with the 91 LEDs. It looks as though I will end up with around 110 LEDs in parallel. This is strange because the data recorder, as recorded across a .05 ohm resistor and my MM both say the 21gauge output coil puts out 35-40 milliamps. When I measure across a 1-ohm resistor I get 2 milliamps, no matter which output coil I measure. I get the same results whether I use a resistor or LEDs as the load. Ohm?s law just does not work. You said ?Putting them in series makes more sense as we have learned throughout this thread to keep the amps down and thus negative Lenz law effects to drag down the magnet rotor...?. Actually, amps don?t seem to be the restricting factor, volts do.

Speaking of volts, This new 44 ga coil I just made shows 240 volts on the ac setting. I get 250 volts measuring across a cap. Right now I have 120 LEDs in series which means that the LEDS are lighting up at 2 volts. I can?t get the LED?s to light up using 2 volts from a cell. Until I get my next order of LEDs I have to use a 100k ohm resistor to make the coil go superconducting. The point being that I expect to use more than 120 LEDs, which means that the voltage to each LED will be less than 2 volts. What does this mean?
1.   I am not measuring voltage correctly.
2.   The LEDs are not specked right (white LEDs)
3.   The type of electricity produced by the output coils is different, and does not register correctly with voltage measuring devices.
4.   Eliminating Lenz law eliminates changes in the size and temperature of the electron, which changes the working characteristics of diodes and resistors.
As I get more info, I will post it.

David Middleton

[therealrasta]

Very interesting thread... Personally I love the idea and concepts behind this HG device.. Would love to hear more updates about it's progress.

[hartiberlin]

Hi David,
it seems you are measuring something wrong here.
If you have 91 diodes in parallel and 1 in series to them,
then you clamp your output voltage  to the series threshold voltage of
around 4 to 5 Volts.
So you coil output voltage will not go much higher than this.

WHat is your open circuit output voltage, when no load ( no LEDS)
are connected ?

I guess it is much better to put all LEDs in series and thus have a high voltage
low current for the output.
Just put so many LEDs in series, so that the open circuit voltage is
still a bit higher, than the added up series threshold voltage of all LEDs
in series.

Hope this helps.

Regards, Stefan.

[wattsup]

@handyguy

I don't know if you are still sticking around the forums.

I always wanted to make a non moving version of the Thingamajigger and here is my new toy I made today. It is my ElectroSwingMagnet or ESM for short. I will put this inside a nice wound coil and start pulsing it. The coils north are all parallel as common and the two souths will be pulsed one after the other. This will create the up and down of the north always on one side and the south always on the other side just like the real magnet.

I had tried a few versions with four linear coils but they all wasted one side of the coil field. The dilema of this design was to find some way that would not waste one side of the north and south fields so both sides are used to their maximum potential, thus or hopefully increasing efficiency. I found these coils at my EE supply for 25 cents each. Tested a few first and got good action and good pick up off a few sample pre-wound coils.

I have also pre-tested the use of two three-way reed switches to oscillate two transformer primaries, so I can use this same technique to pulse these back and forth without using transistors. If the coil output can then be fed into a cap tank and re-fed through the reed line, all while voltage in the cap tank increases, bingo. I may use transistors afterwards to get pulsing even higher. Maybe even add a cap on each side to make to LC circuits and run them in resonance mode.

Now to put it to test in a coil.

We may not be able to create a rotating field but we should be able to at least make it swing a bit. If I can virtually swing the field fast enough, it should be able to produce some real juice without making the rattling noise. It should swing much faster then with the real magnet and micro switches.

There may be issues with the core material but since I found these ready made, I wanted to to try them as is. I understand I may have to change core material but that will be in the next steps if required.

Oh yeh, in case this idea pans out, I would like to declare now that the ESM is open source to the World with credit and thanks to @handyguy for his great idea.