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Overunity Machines Forum



Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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Yadaraf

Quote from: Omnibus on February 06, 2008, 11:23:43 AM
@All,

I'd like to clarify something while waiting for my rotor to arrive (hopefully) tomorrow. The rigs I'm working now have the bearings in the rotor. However, it turned out that @alsetalokin's first video was done with a rig having the bearings in the base the shaft immovably attached to the rotor. Does anyone have more details about that? Drawings, dxf files? I know @alsetalokin appoved Jason's drawings with bearings in the rotor but still it's good to know what the actual construction in the video is. That's the only construction that worked, isn't it?

Omni,

Al's second video -- the one where he detaches the rotor and throws it away -- shows that the rotor bearing is part of the base (I believe).  It seemed similar to a good quality record player turntable that lifts off the motor spindle.  Correct me if I'm wrong.

Cheers,  :)

Yada..
.

JFK

hee hee, talk about way out there, 144/2 = 72/2 = 36/2 = 18/2 = 9.. 9x16=144.. Ed Leedskalnin ( of coral castle fame ) called his apparatus his "sweet 16".

notice 4 divisions, and 4 concentrations of magnetic poles in the rotor....

RE: rotor being 144 mm in diameter.
If the stators are 9mm ( 144/16 ) in diameter, we may be on to something.  ;D

dean_mcgowan

Quote from: Yadaraf on February 06, 2008, 12:24:56 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on February 06, 2008, 11:23:43 AM
@All,

I'd like to clarify something while waiting for my rotor to arrive (hopefully) tomorrow. The rigs I'm working now have the bearings in the rotor. However, it turned out that @alsetalokin's first video was done with a rig having the bearings in the base the shaft immovably attached to the rotor. Does anyone have more details about that? Drawings, dxf files? I know @alsetalokin appoved Jason's drawings with bearings in the rotor but still it's good to know what the actual construction in the video is. That's the only construction that worked, isn't it?

Omni,

Al's second video -- the one where he detaches the rotor and throws it away -- shows that the rotor bearing is part of the base (I believe).  It seemed similar to a good quality record player turntable that lifts off the motor spindle.  Correct me if I'm wrong.

Cheers,  :)

Yada..
.

So it was not misleading of him to confirm the specs knowing full well that the rotor assembly was completely wrong ?

What a merry dance this piper leads ...hmmm

blue_energy

Quote from: Omnibus on February 06, 2008, 11:23:43 AM
@All,

I'd like to clarify something while waiting for my rotor to arrive (hopefully) tomorrow. The rigs I'm working now have the bearings in the rotor. However, it turned out that @alsetalokin's first video was done with a rig having the bearings in the base the shaft immovably attached to the rotor. Does anyone have more details about that? Drawings, dxf files? I know @alsetalokin appoved Jason's drawings with bearings in the rotor but still it's good to know what the actual construction in the video is. That's the only construction that worked, isn't it?

That's a good point, O.  I don't have it in front of me but I think I remember him saying that he took an old reel-to-reel tape machine apart to get the spindle and bearing combination.  The magnets in your rotor are pretty far away from your bearings though. 

On the other hand, if you have ever played around with a reel-to-reel tape recorder, those bearings are tight.  There's no clatter in them at all and no opportunity for shaft wobble.  It's hard to imagine that this design difference would be so significant.  Still... his apparently works and no-one elses does, and this is a difference.

<later...>  OK, I couldn't leave it like that.  I did the search again.

Here, someone other than Al discusses the rotor shaft:
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=7#Item_21

Here, Al talks about his rotor as of Jan. 2nd (no discussion of r-to-r tape shaft):
http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=59687&page=6#Item_49

So... what is he using?  I don't know.

By the way, at the time of his original 'hypothetical' (his words) discovery, his rotor would spin about 2 minutes on it's own without stator involvement.

vipond50

Quote from: Yadaraf on February 06, 2008, 12:24:56 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on February 06, 2008, 11:23:43 AM
@All,

I'd like to clarify something while waiting for my rotor to arrive (hopefully) tomorrow. The rigs I'm working now have the bearings in the rotor. However, it turned out that @alsetalokin's first video was done with a rig having the bearings in the base the shaft immovably attached to the rotor. Does anyone have more details about that? Drawings, dxf files? I know @alsetalokin appoved Jason's drawings with bearings in the rotor but still it's good to know what the actual construction in the video is. That's the only construction that worked, isn't it?

Omni,

Al's second video -- the one where he detaches the rotor and throws it away -- shows that the rotor bearing is part of the base (I believe).  It seemed similar to a good quality record player turntable that lifts off the motor spindle.  Correct me if I'm wrong.

Cheers,  :)

Yada..
.
@ Onmi

Al utilized an old Reel to Reel machine spool for the bearing support that he scrounged for some back alley.
Good luck on finding out what specific machine that was. In my Ver #2 Device U can relate the support concept.

I have been saying more or less all along that Al's the second version.... the one represented on the Video's was the only one that worked to my knowledge. For some reason it seem that the group has blinder on when relating to this. <grin>

Regards
Bill