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Overunity Machines Forum



Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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Grimer

Quote from: Omnibus on February 21, 2008, 11:15:19 PM
I see @Grimer is trying but the main point is still missing--what's the mechanism for excess energy production in @alsetalokin's device. That business with the speed of magnetic field propagation being at the speed of light while the magnetic domain reorganization speed being much slower is fine but how does that explain the production of excess energy? That part is lacking.

Thank you very much Professor Omnibus. I appreciate your recognition that I am trying.  ;)
And you are absolutely right. The $64,000 question is the explanation of the production of excess energy,

I have in fact already explained where the excess energy must be coming from both in the SPUD and on the Steorn Forum but either people are not capable of following the argument about the BH loop or else the cognitive dissonance is too great for them.

Funnily enough McCarthy was spot on with his bubble. However, he doesn't seem to have been able to develop whatever device he has up his sleeve to a practical commercial motor. I suppose he is more interested in making money than in a point of scientific principle. Fair enough I suppose. He is a business man, not a scientist like you.
Who is she that cometh forth as the morning rising  -  Fair as the moon. Bright as the sun  -  Terrible as an army set in battle array.

Grimer

Quote from: Omnibus on February 21, 2008, 05:47:09 AM
Quote from: spacetrax on February 21, 2008, 12:44:35 AM
Hi,
let ?s be realistic, the energy that the PMM produces making 10 full turns - if any - is much less than the energy required to magnetize the magnets. So, there is no OU here.
I spent enough money on magnets and I tried quite hard to make a real PMM but I failed to succeed to date.

Cheers,
Spacetrax

Quote from: spacetrax on February 20, 2008, 01:45:46 AM
"...However, he seems to know what is in my mind without asking him, so he begun telling me about magnets. they are like batteries whose energy is very hard to extract, once loaded, that is why the magnets hold their field for tens of years, and this fact lead many people to the FALSE IDEA that a motor made with permanent magnets would run for many years withoud adding energy in the system. But if one tricks the energy out of the magnets, making a magnet motor with them, they will demagnetise quite quickly, maybe in a few days, so this is not a real overunity system.
/Spacetrax

Just the contrary, show me a magnetic motor working for a very short time, say making 10 full turns in a row on its own while self starting and then try to argue with me it isn't OU.
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The above shows clear misunderstanding of the scientific basis of overunity. If you have studied thermodynamics you would know that the energy put in to produce the machine is never taken into account when carrying out the energy balance. This is to be realistic. Therefore, if, once the motor is constructed it can make ten full turns on its own without external energy input, self-starting, then it's a proof that thermodynamic laws are violated which the whole contemporary science is up in arms against acknowledging no matter what evidence is presented. Since, however, we're interested in the truth and not in what a certain establishment acknowledges or doesn't acknowledgewe we have to recognize that the only scientifically rigorous proof for violation of CoE so far is provided by the Johannes Taisnierius device (contemporary SMOT, that is) producing energy out of nothing discontinuously. So far there has been no evidence whatsoever that anyone has constructed a device producing energy out of no source continuously. Therefore, despite the fact that violation of CoE has already been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, its somewhat more practical aspect is still wanting.
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Spot on Professor. I couldn't agree more.  :-*
Who is she that cometh forth as the morning rising  -  Fair as the moon. Bright as the sun  -  Terrible as an army set in battle array.

PolyMatrix

Well talking of Proffesors and working magnetic motors we have the following youtube info.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-O7WNvKSvY

Yadaraf

Quote from: Grimer on February 22, 2008, 01:12:42 AM
The WhipMag acceleration is genuine.

The key to understanding is recognising the essential difference between GW and AGW rotation in terms of its implications for magnetic interaction; in recognising also why AGW rotation of the stators is relatively hard to obtain, relatively unstable, compared with GW rotation.

When you can see it the answer is painfully obvious.

In GW rotation the rotor is dragging the stators around. The magnetic fields are in attraction, in magnetic tension.

In AGW on the other hand the rotor is pushing the stator around. The magnetic fields are in repulsion, in magnetic compression.
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Grimer,

I agree with you about the AGW acceleration -- no brainer.

... Q:  Grimer, do you think a Searl effect within the stator could generate motive power (i.e motion) instead of electrical?

Compare a SEG to a typical roller bearing as used in the stator.  (see below pics)


Cheers  :)

Yada..
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Grimer

Quote from: PolyMatrix on February 22, 2008, 01:51:58 AM
Well talking of Proffesors and working magnetic motors we have the following youtube info.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-O7WNvKSvY

He's got a nice hat. ;D
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