Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

[magnetman12003]

Hi Brad,

What you saw demonstrated  was a David Hamel spinner device.

You need a very slight hand movement "all the time" to keep the spinner moving.  I experimented with this in great detail and have made a pendulum device that works and keeps the spinner magnet rotating.   I still am fine tuning my device but as of yet I still have not reached the hands/fingers off stage and see a complete self runner. Presently its a one finger from time to time to keep everything going.

I have it all posted in the HALF BAKED IDEAS listing to keep away skeptical remarks.

Tom

[fritz]

@fritz,

Is the method you mentioned above capable of providing a quantitative picture of the field around a magnet?

The mentioned sensors KMZ10A/B have a detector area of about 1 sq mm, and allow
quantitative measuring. They are too sensitive for this application - so you need some
steel cap or  measure the field - 30cm appart of the magnet (gives even more precise picture).
One bad behaviour of the sensors is that due to their operation principle - they flip polarity
if you exceed the maximum field strength - but thats so obvious - no problem.

By operating the sensor manually or with x/y/z or polar stage - it should be possible to
get a nice picture of the field, nice stuff.
Maybe there are sensors available with less sensitivity - which better fit to this job.
- will have a look.


rgds.

[Yadaraf]

Ok, i will quit posting any information to the Group.
I will leave it up to the Group  to decide?

Bill

Bill, I think you should continue to post your observations.  If you were the only one reporting any degree of success, then I think Shirikawa's skepticism would be more founded.  But there are several others reporting a degree of success here, beginning with CLaNZeR.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:MPMM:Replications

My count is five, holding CLaNZeR's as being foremost in being convincing, showing accelleration, albeit for only a couple of seconds.

That's from what has been reported here at OverUnity on this thread, which is really the only place I've been watching as it seems to be the most comprehensive while being minimal in fighting and rudeness that I found at the Steorn forum (primarily from Al and OC).

Perhaps this will be a good way for you to redeem yourself and show your credibility.  I personally still tend to believe that there is something to the Joe Cell phenomenon, and I do not doubt that you had what you claimed to have a couple of years ago.  It has been disapointing that others have not been able to replicate this to a point of stability and reproducibility.

Sterling D. Allan

@ sterlinga

There is another replicator who is not listed at PES:

Andrea Ganora
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     Part 1:  http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=ICLJKshPdCg

     Part 2:  http://youtube.com/watch?v=jWJwkqjcxdQ


Cheers,

Yada ..
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[Omnibus]

@fritz,

I have a gaussmeter and have tried before to attach its sensor to a 3D support (it was a milling machine actually). Not only it was a tedious job (I don't mind doing it) but I don't have the machine itself. Would be nice if I can find a 3D table with micrometric screws but don't know where to look. I was thinking there may be something like a chamber with an array of sensors where you can put the magnet and see at once the distribution. That would be very helpful in all of these efforts to build magnetic motors. Because it's the invisible fields that are at play here and no matter how precise the mechanics of a setup is the incorrect fields ruin everything and one can only rely on a miracle when hoping that blind adjustments may fix the problems.

[fritz]

@fritz,

I have a gaussmeter and have tried before to attach its sensor to a 3D support (it was a milling machine actually). Not only it was a tedious job (I don't mind doing it) but I don't have the machine itself. Would be nice if I can find a 3D table with micrometric screws but don't know where to look. I was thinking there may be something like a chamber with an array of sensors where you can put the magnet and see at once the distribution. That would be very helpful in all of these efforts to build magnetic motors. Because it's the invisible fields that are at play here and no matter how precise the mechanics of a setup is the incorrect fields ruin everything and one can only rely on a miracle when hoping that blind adjustments may fix the problems.

To topic before http://www.nxp.com/acrobat_download/datasheets/KMZ10C_2.pdf - is a nice thing.

I think for matching the rotor - a fixed, sensor with adjustable position is quite enough.
By turnin the rotor (maybe some sync mechanism would be nice then) - you
can look at the scope - this should give a nice picture.

Anyway - I think measuring the resulting forces is from operation point of view the more
direct way.

rgds.