DEBATE THREAD

[Omnibus]

@omnibus,

SHOW ME THE NUMBERS!!!!!!  WHAT COULD BE SIMPLER? especially forsomeone that has all the answers!

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sam

I've shown enough for any knowledgeable person to understand that SMOT violates CoE. Your request is by someone who doesn't know what he's talking about.

[supersam]

omnibus,

oh is that ever so simple!!  but what else can you expect from a simple mind!  do anything but answer the question.  what a peeon!  don;'t even speculat in your equation? that ___ kg =anything. SHOW ME THE NUMBERS, THEN ATTACK MY CHARACTER!  UNTIL THEN I WILL CONTINUE TO ATTACK YOURS AS WELL AS ANY OTHER, "SO CALLED SCIENTIST" THAT CAN NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION!  have you noticed there is no longer anybody posting here but me and you.  we are waiting for your quantatative prooof!

lol
sam

[Omnibus]

@supersam,

Stop filling the thread with crap.

[supersam]

   $$$$$omnibus,

until you,SHOW ME THE NUMBERS THE ONLY ONE SPOUTING CRAP IS YOU!!!!!  your suppossed truth is nothing more than a bunch mathematical gibberish,  that on the one hand you are using to disprove and the other you are using to prove.  you are full of shi@#@$t, until you show me the numbers.  i don't give a damn about your supposed algebraic proofs with no numbers!  they are only as good as 1=2!!!!!!

lol;
sam

[PolyMatrix]

This argument is all about where and how you start calculating the input energy and the output energy.

What IS energy? Here is one persons research on the definitions he found. http://www.ftexploring.com/energy/definition.html

Now lets concentrate on the definition of Work.http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~vawter/PhysicsNet/Topics/Work/DefinitionWork.html

However it seems that the definition of work has been causing some problems. No work is done if there is no displacement. So pushing a rock that does not move means no work. Which is not that useful for thermodynamics.
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0707/0707.3802.pdf

From the above references a picture of confusion starts to emerge. Especially when we are told that magnetic force is a conservative force except when it is varying magnetic field in Maxwell?s Fourth Field Equation. http://phy.duke.edu/courses/042/Lectures/Lecture24.pdf.

At this point I gave up trying to find out how to measure the work done by a magnetic field.