Tri-Force Magnets - Finally shown to be OU?

[zerotensor]

No, I don?t agree. Watch the video once again. We start with the ball at A.
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Give it another try.

The magnetic potential is dynamic.  Imagine the field lines as the ball is released and drawn into the array.  Do they wiggle, bend, move in space, enter and leave the sphere? You bet they do.  If you assume static fields, then it appears to momentarily violate COE. -- I grant you that.  However,  you can not assume static fields in this case.  If the fields were actually static there would be no acceleration of the ball to begin with.  The actual configuration of the magnetic field, and, along with it, the instantaneous value of the magnetic potential varies in space as the position of the ball changes.

I ask you this:  Why does the ball accelerate?
Answering that question without invoking a dynamic magnetic field will be difficult, I think.

[Omnibus]

The magnetic potential is dynamic.

No, it isn?t. The magnetic potential at A, at B and at C is time independent.

Imagine the field lines as the ball is released and drawn into the array.  Do they wiggle, bend, move in space, enter and leave the sphere? You bet they do.  If you assume static fields, then it appears to violate COE. -- I grant you that.

Are you kidding me? Of course, the fields are static. Any wiggling of the fields occurring is exactly because of the violation of CoE, not otherwise. The static fields of the permanent magnets do not wiggle at all.

However,  you can not assume static fields in this case.

I?m not assuming. They are.

If the fields were actually static there would be no acceleration of the ball to begin with.  The actual configuration of the magnetic field, and, along with it, the instantaneous value of the magnetic potential varies in space as the position of the ball changes.

Completely ridiculous statements. Changing of the magnetic fields occurring spontaneously is such that overall the imparted energy is greater than the energy available to the ball to transform into other energies which is the violation of CoE itself.

I ask you this:  Why does the ball accelerate?
Answering that question without invoking a dynamic magnetic field will be difficult, I think.

The ball accelerates because it has at its disposal energy which has come from no energy source. The energy which allows the ball to accelerate was not imparted to it when moving it from A to B. Do you get it? That?s the gist of the violation of CoE in this case.

I think this exchange should end here because it is nothing else but an exercise in confusion on your part.

[zerotensor]

I agree that this exchange should end here because it is nothing else but an exercise in confusion on your part.

[Omnibus]

I agree that this exchange should end here because it is nothing else but an exercise in confusion on your part.

No, the confusion is on your part, like I said. Before coming here to discuss this you must learn that the magnetic fields of permanent magnets are time-independent.

You tried with finagling with the starting point. It obviously didn't pass. Then you tried other obviously stupid suggestions. Since you have no restraint someone has to put a stop to this. Enough is enough.

This analysis has unexpectedly turned into a litmus test of human stupidity and confusion. I will be as harsh as can be if anyone continues with such stupidities. This forum isn't a public toilet and a dumping ground for intellectual waste and it nust not be dominated by stupid people.

[zerotensor]

I agree that this exchange should end here because it is nothing else but an exercise in confusion on your part.

No, the confusion is on your part, like I said. Before coming here to discuss this you must learn that the magnetic fields of permanent magnets are time-independent.

This analysis has unexpectedly turned into a litmus test of human stupidity and confusion. I will be as harsh as can be if anyone continues with such stupidities.

@Omnibus:

Gosh.  You sure do get yourself worked up about this, don't you?

You say that the magnetic field is static, and I say that it is dynamic.  This is where we differ.  I propose an experiment that should settle this:

Visualize the magnetic field --( One could use a piece of magnetic viewing film).   Observe the motion (or lack thereof) of the pattern when a bearing zooms through.  If the pattern moves, then the field is dynamic.  If it stays put, then I concede the point.  How's that for a "litmus test"?