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Steven Mark´s associate Jack Durban comes forward with more info !

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Grumpy

Quote from: Loner on August 28, 2009, 02:33:38 AM
Not to intrude, but as Ronette has mentioned, there are frequencies that you don't want to hit when working with TMT's or any other direct RE generator.  (This is personal experience talking, I'm afraid.)

The frequencies are WELL documented by a guy named Tesla, who actually had poor people sitting on generators and exposed them to various Frequencies.  (There are other ramifications of this, but that's for some other threads...)

SO, all I want to say is, and please assume I'm saying this LOUDLY, if you wish to use the TMT or Pure RE in general, read the frequency spreads and effects in Tesla's reports so you can chose a frequency that won't damage bio devices (Plants, Humans, animals, and things along those lines.)  Once a little deeper into clean RE, these things become obvious, but what I have found is that the more I learn about "Clean" RE Frequencies, the less I can fall back on my EE background, and the more I need to assume I know nothing and learn, learn, learn.

The hardest part for me is accepting that what I am calling "RE" really isn't.  I actually don't know what word to use, so RE is it for now, but as the specific words "Radiant Energy" specify the "Field?" or "particles?" flowing radially from the wire, yet I CAN flow them down (Well, call it outside....) the wire, that tested effect denies the word "Radiant".  For those sticklers out there, please excuse my lack of a correct word for this energy form.

I have noticed a TMT does produce gain, but haven't figured a way of taking the "Clean" RE and converting it to standard current flow, without destroying the operating process.  If I can figure out more, I will put it all here, but, as usual for me, I don't know enough yet to be helpful.

Bruce!!!   When in doubt, check it out.  I cannot imagine Mannix denying you permission, if you were to ask.  Of course, keep the "Conversation" between the two of you, and be prepared to take heat if he says yes, but asks you to say he didn't say anything.  (I hope you both understand..)  Of course, if he says no, you don't need to admit that to us, nor mention you even asked, so as not to raise eyebrows.  I have respect for those capable of keeping their promises.  Do what you think is right and honest, not to satisfy my or any others interests.

It, RE or whatever, charges capacitors, batteries, and is inductive.

The receiver of a TMT converts it via induction with a secondary, or it can be used without conversion, per Tesla's writings.

If you look at the papers I recently posted concerning how electrons start to flow in a wire, and imagine if you kept applying and removing the initial pulse that causes the displacement current and it's effects...

I am truly sorry that the truth of the matter is so much more simple than "harmonics" or "3 magic frequencies" or "pixie dust".

If you follow the work of Dr. Stiffler, he is doing the same thing and getting great results, OU, all that, etc...

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EMDevices, do you still have your small Tesla coil?  If so, make a receiver to complete the circuit.
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

giantkiller

Lets boils this down some more.

The 3 freqs create an event that looks just like a non diffusive moment or high speed magnetic moment. The cancelling of the flux is this also as is the Kunel explanations, as is the Bedini motors as is the Energia Celeste as is the resonance of Moray and Thrapp devices and Otto's windings.
Now I realize I am excluding alot of detail but that only splits the parties into different camps. But let not this deter us.

If you read the explainations and postings of Grumpy, Sparks, and Loner you will see the event fully documented in civilian and black project descriptions(Yes!). On the electronic side we have EMD, Poynt99, Marco, Earl and others. On the eletromechanical side we have wattsup and Bruce. Sorry if I have pigeon-holed here. But the predominances have struck patterns of thinking.

Caveat:
My current health status has gotten better and I can now lift my left elbow higher than my lower rib. I can put things back together on the bench.

So with that said. I have Bruce's coils, mine, Otto's, Moby's, Marco's and I am on the next step to run these through the rest of the year. Bruce's concern with freq control is admirable as without this we get spaz events which I am myself like others here responsible for. But without the control other factors of runaway take over and offer a level of control that is automatic. I don't know what stable bandwith is for tubes but I saw 5MHZ to 6MHZ in solid state. Iron and copper offer their own in the mix.

I have an adequate amount of rings to test with the 2 pulse control while taking advantage of the non diffusion or excluding conduction current like Grumpy has been pushing. This drive protocol clearly explains the cold current that is available in the skin effect in a space charge environment. Enough of the cold current from resonance and you achieve the cooling or low amperage runs. This is what I have been obtaining from gleening all the positive tests and posted results.

I have no other distractions except for any legal run ins with my testing the Solfeggio Harmonic Integration Transmitter in echoing chambers around the planet. :o

Hope this on the mark for most here? The pain pill time frame has left me to just sit on take note of the inventory of builds, tests, videos, and all posts. To be still has been the best medicine so far.

I hope to post the pix of the total finished drive device this weekend. It is sweet.
The drive mechanism can be used to push electrons, magnetic fields, heat, light or sound depending on the target, drive destination / transmitting material, or operation bandwith. This is the basic tenant.

--giantkiller. What if you make your LC tank as big as a castle?

Grumpy

The "effect" or whatever you want to call it that manifest before electrons start to flow, is proportional to the rate of the change in the polarization of the dielectric medium around the conductor.  More voltage or a faster rate of change increases the effect.   Other static fields (magnetic or electric) with the correct orientation can also increase the polarization of the space around the conductor.

Per Tesla's own words, resonance was used to work up the potential to a very high level and you can also achieve this with a transformer or various other means.  Steinmetz showed that you can dump a capacitor or an inductor to produce your pulse.  SM's method with bifilar coils is very clever and has an unusually high compression rate.

Peaks of the displacement current oscillation (which is positively biased - by the way) can be several nanoseconds apart, 200 ns or more would not be unreasonable.   This oscillation seems related to the length of the conductor and maybe other factors like self-inductance, self capacitance, insulation, wire diameter, etc.
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards

Bruce_TPU

Quote from: rotaryfcg on August 28, 2009, 02:23:57 AM
@Bruce
You'll be probably bombarded with pm's about hows and whys it's working. instead of repeating to each and every one or to just a few "selected" ones,
why don't you write down your theory and by all means load it up.if you're sure that this is it just do it.
@Mannix
Why does he need your permission? it's your work? if you were the real SM...that would explain some things.if you're not SM it seems to me that you have more info about the subject.Why don't you share?Why that game?


For the three CORRECT frequencies to be released in the public domain, permission must be given.  It was a promise.  It is not Mannix's fault.  YET, without those THREE CORRECT frequencies, the SM TPU will never work. 

For each size TPU, the fundamental frequency will change, but the two CARRIER frequencies will ALWAYS stay the same.  The two carrier frequencies, BECAUSE OF THE MATH (Study INTERMODULATION) ALWAYS produce the same effect of producing hundred of harmonics of whatever fundamental is placed with them and of CONVERGING ALL EIGHT harmonics of whatever fundamental is placed as the third frequency in the THIRD ORDER INTERMODULATION> (study intermodulation)

NO OTHER TWO FREQUENCY"S will do this BECAUSE OF THE MATH.  It is stunning to see the spreadsheet.  Others here on this forum, in private have seen it.

But seeing is not believing, unfortunately.  You must grasp the concept of INTERMODULATION used to PRODUCE REPLICAS of the FUNDAMENTAL and its HARMONICS and then to have them all CONVERGE at one point.  THIS IS NOT A FAIRY TALE.  It is quite awesome to see on paper.  We must make it work.

The three frequency's MUST BE mixed in a TUBE AMP or MIXER of some sort, and then INPUT into the collectors, in order for INTERMODULATION to occur.  SIMPLY INPUTING three seperate frequencies into a coil will NEVER GIVE THE DESIRED EFFECT.

The coils MUST BE TUNED to the fundamental, collector 1, via a tuned resonant tank.  Second Harmonic, via a tuned resonant tank, collector 2.  Third Harmonic, via a tuned resonant tank, collector 3.

Input frequency's
Fundamental - Changes based on the circumference>We have the fundamental for the 15" TPU
Carrier frequency 1 - see description above
Carrier frequency 2 - see description above

Things that assist with intermodulation:
Mixing the signals
Carbon Resistor
Antenna (RF)
Pulsed DC Bias overlaid

Things needed in general:
Split signal after the three inputs MIX.
One leg of split signal inverted 180 degrees.
Standing waves established in innerloop of collector.
Pulsed Dc bias added.
ALL POWER SOURCES from Batteries only.
STABLE freq gen.
Voltage required will most certainly be 350 or higher.
KILL SWITCH between the battery and the THREE Freq Gens.
ODD EVEN harmonics, like a tube amp produces.  KEEPS THE MATH correct (study intermodulation).
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

kmarinas86

Quote from: Grumpy on August 28, 2009, 01:10:53 PM
The "effect" or whatever you want to call it that manifest before electrons start to flow, is proportional to the rate of the change in the polarization of the dielectric medium around the conductor.  More voltage or a faster rate of change increases the effect.   Other static fields (magnetic or electric) with the correct orientation can also increase the polarization of the space around the conductor.

It is clear from the operation of capacitors that a displacement current creates a magnetic field with the same polarity as current going the same direction.

When displacement current forms, a curl of the B-field is generated to which the magnetic moments of copper (a diamagnetic material) attempts to cancels out. Because such a B-field can be made of such a magnitude to domineer over the magnetic dipole moments among neighboring copper atoms, the subatomic particles of those copper atoms will attempt to align their magnetic moment dipole axes in helical configurations in contrast to their typical random configurations. The change of configuration actually consumes potential energy by the formation of "paratoroidic (magnetic) moments" of copper (an as-yet-unconfirmed paramagnetic analogue of the experimentally validated "ferrotordic (magnetic) moment").

See timeline on verification of ferrotorodicity: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=Hek&tbo=1&tbs=tl%3A1&q=ferrotoroidicity&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

By keeping the impedance of the back-spike larger (i.e. voltage higher and its current lower) than in the initial pulse, copper's reaction to the voltage back-spike can provide the same polarity of magnetic field as current going forwards. The back-voltage does dissipate after a while, and you are right when you say that, "This oscillation seems related to the length of the conductor and maybe other factors like self-inductance, self capacitance, insulation, wire diameter, etc."

So where does the energy come from to restore the potential energy lost via alignment of the paratoroidic (magnetic) moments? Certain frequencies of electromagnetic radiation get absorbed by the (PARAtoroidic) arrangements of magnetic moments in the copper atoms, in effect, restoring their potential energy. When some of the moments fall out of alignment, others will follow suit.

I do not see this a violation of any laws of thermodynamics. The 2nd law in particular says nothing about any "impossibility" of zones of decreasing entropy, nor is it disproven by the existence of self-organizing structures. Don't get me started on the 1st law, that is simply fact because we can always define a potential energy in reference to new energies discovered. And the 3rd law is about absolute zero....

The generation of frost in some failed operations of the Steven Mark TPU device can be explained by generation of excess magnetic fields. If you remember the fact that temperature is dependent on motion, it is clear that atoms locked in position as a result of mutual magnetic inductance have a lower temperature; this is obviously not the same as keeping a macroscopic object still! At some point, this temperature change can spur surrounding photons to make up the difference, restoring the atoms into their natural, random configuration.