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A truly overunity Transformer / Meg

Started by LoganBaker, March 17, 2008, 06:32:56 PM

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Kator01

Hi Nali,

your video-demonstration is very interesting. One thing I would like to know about the laminated core-experiment :
Did you ever tried to let the pulsed core ( with shorted secondary ) rest for a while to find out if there is a time-constant, i.e a decay-period after which you can seperate the core without opening the secondary coil ?

I can not believe that this is a static process meaning that the magnetic domains remain fixed in one direction by just the presence of a shorted secondary.This is very strange.

Another small step in understanding this better would be to build a switch-circuit with a MOSFET and monitor the pulses of both coils with a two-channel-scope during puls-on-period and then when you open the secondary.

What do you think ?

Regards

Kator


winsonali

nali2001:

you have certainly good knowledge about magnetic field and transformer

the end result is due to flux the resistivity of the coil increases and due to this the power consume in it increases and this results in more current consumption.

i have addressed this issue with the new concept

as we all know
DC can be blocked with a capacitor and AC can be blocked with an inductor.
this is the key for success in MEG.

i appreciate you have very good concept and knowledge.

MEG is possible its not impossible ......

Nali2001

Hi Kator,
With the C core and shorted coil the attraction leaks away in about 6 seconds. So it will not be attracted forever due to the coil. It could be that the coil has a capacitance that is for a short while acting as a battery. But perhaps not since such a coil would only be a few Pico or Nano farad. Wonder what would happen is that cosed coil was super conducting.
These C cores are M4 silicon steel and I got them from http://www.alphacoredirect.com/

With the rectangular core (taken from a microwave oven transformer) you see no change in behavior with or without the closed secondary coil. Once you input the field it keeps the two core parts attracted. And this for a very long time. I have had the rectangular cores attracted under the table for an month and after that they were still attracted as strong as ever. So with this core you have very much a hard steel permanent magnet effect. The magnetic domains will keep their force orientation until flipped around by a reverse current input like normal Ac operation.

Magnetic cores like transformer cores come in many varieties and one must take care in choosing the right type/behaviour for the job. In the Inkomp you would want a material which has a very sharp Bh curve, and normal non orientated silicon steel is not always suitable. See for instance the below Bh traces:


LarryC


Hi Nali,

Great video, had seen it a while back, but had forgot and was about to try to create a simple PPMT generator using transformer cores(mistake), based on Flynn's latest patent WO 2008/119055.

I did think of another possible theory that may explain the C core reaction with the secondary shorted. What if the sharp Bh curve allows the flux to be maintained for the six second period. As the core attempts to realign, the flux drops, as this happens the coil would attempt to counter the flux drop causing an increase in flux. So that an oscillation is set up until the flux is completely dissipated.

I had to put your quote at the bottom as there seems to be some type of problem typing after the quotes, as the screen keeps jumping back up to the last quote as I type. Does anyone else have this problem?

Regards, Larry


Quote from: Nali2001 on December 06, 2009, 06:05:45 AM
Hi Kator,
With the C core and shorted coil the attraction leaks away in about 6 seconds. So it will not be attracted forever due to the coil. It could be that the coil has a capacitance that is for a short while acting as a battery. But perhaps not since such a coil would only be a few Pico or Nano farad. Wonder what would happen is that cosed coil was super conducting.
These C cores are M4 silicon steel and I got them from http://www.alphacoredirect.com/

Magnetic cores like transformer cores come in many varieties and one must take care in choosing the right type/behaviour for the job. In the Inkomp you would want a material which has a very sharp Bh curve, and normal non orientated silicon steel is not always suitable. See for instance the below Bh traces:


winsonali

Nnali2001 what is your experience regarding permanent magnet based transformers or MEG
how you connect the oscilloscope to get the wave form?

Best transformers are those transformer where the BH curve are low micro wave transformers are usually very good transformers.
your microwave transformer cores must be connected and and due to this reason creating a capacitive load with high flux retained in it you know capacitor keep charges within them selves until and unless the discharge naturally or we discharge them in load. so may be the 6 seconds are the discharge time of the capacitance  created in core with closed loop.