im curious why ?.

[z.monkey]

Uh, I started from scratch.  Theory up...
Go read the Soft Particle Physics thread.
I would like to think we are more than a bunch of mindless bloggers...

[nightlife]

z.monkey, I did read what your opinion was in that thread and it was quite interesting, something?s I can agree with where as others cant seem to agree with.

I am glad that you have started from scratch and I wish more would. I don't expect you to agree with my opinionated conclusion nor should I or anyone else be expected to agree with any ones opinionated conclusion because at this time, none of us can be proven right or wrong. I would how ever suggest that we all keep an open mind to what others opinions are and try to see things as they do. This does make for good debates as long as everyone can stay within the realm of respect.

It is impossible for us to say what came first at this time and I doubt that we will ever know. I believe that alone has brought most of mankind to think of the creator of all as a god.

I can not say there is or isn't a god nor can anyone else, we can assume and hope but reality is, we will never know until we die if indeed there is a life after death. I personally feel that the assumption should be given the benefit of the doubt and I try to think of a mystical god as to what I feel is right and wrong. I will never believe in anyone?s else?s mystical god nor will I ever agree with the teachings of a mystical god because to me that is much more far fetched then reality and we cant even figure out what is real, what makes people think we can figure out what a mystical god is and then to say what a god would want and not want. LOL

Common sense is very limited with in humanity and forums like this one and others are prime examples.

[nightlife]

Nomen luni, I have done a few expirements as well as I have viewed hundreds of others. I am working on two as we speak.

[z.monkey]

So, your saying we need more astrophysics major, do-it-your-selfers?
I can commiserate...

[nightlife]

z.monkey, in a sense, yes. Although I believe most are "do-it-your-selfers" but they tend to base their opinions on others opinions with out really thinking hard about it themselves.