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Perpetual Motion Wheel Design (Quite Simple)

Started by Alexioco, March 22, 2008, 10:10:11 PM

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SeanTheLight

*thumbs up*

Very clever manipulation of energy in that design. Inner pegs are reducing the effect of spring/weight on the wheel by placing a fulcrum right near the axle. When the weight falls, it hangs loose between the inner pegs, but hangs firmly on the outer locking mechanism (also clever IMO). All downward force is applied to the diameter. As 6 o'clock is passed, the spring/weight hang vertically, wheel continues to spin, catching the spring with the inner peg, reducing the force required to -rotate the base of the spring-. You would need to use a fairly stiff spring to get that "whip back" effect where the weight catches vertical again at 12 o'clock, which reduces the advantage to be gained by moving the weight perpendicular to the force. (horizontal compared to the axle, leverage).

I believe I may have a slight misunderstanding of the design, particularly on the up mechanism, but I say build it. I would simulate it in working model, but that program has proven less than reliable for calculations regarding any device which outputs ANY energy....If you'd still like to see it simulated in working model, get in touch with me......

Seanthelight@gmail.com

FreeEnergy

Sean please build this with working model 2d, i know i'd like to see. it just might work.


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SeanTheLight

I'm starting on my wm2d reproduction now. If I need help with the design, I will ask questions here.

-edit- actually I already see a problem potentially.

There are 8 "gaps" for springs to hang through, but only 6 weights in the drawing. Am i to assume the wheel is meant to have 8 spring/weights, or is this gap intentional? (may I add that if it is intentional, it seems the design would eventually stop with the gap facing up)

FreeEnergy

i suggest trying with 6 and 8. then post results here. thanks in advanced. :)


peace

Alexioco

Quote from: SeanTheLight on March 26, 2008, 01:06:51 PM
*thumbs up*

Very clever manipulation of energy in that design. Inner pegs are reducing the effect of spring/weight on the wheel by placing a fulcrum right near the axle. When the weight falls, it hangs loose between the inner pegs, but hangs firmly on the outer locking mechanism (also clever IMO). All downward force is applied to the diameter. As 6 o'clock is passed, the spring/weight hang vertically, wheel continues to spin, catching the spring with the inner peg, reducing the force required to -rotate the base of the spring-. You would need to use a fairly stiff spring to get that "whip back" effect where the weight catches vertical again at 12 o'clock, which reduces the advantage to be gained by moving the weight perpendicular to the force. (horizontal compared to the axle, leverage).

I believe I may have a slight misunderstanding of the design, particularly on the up mechanism, but I say build it. I would simulate it in working model, but that program has proven less than reliable for calculations regarding any device which outputs ANY energy....If you'd still like to see it simulated in working model, get in touch with me......

Seanthelight@gmail.com

SeanTheLight
Yes, I would like to see a model, thats very good of you :)
I have now drawn out using a compass two large circles in wood, I will split them up into 8 sections then cut them out.

Also, there is no weight at the 6 o clock position, as the weight has swing straight past it...
Also, there are only 6 weights, as long as that weight swings, the position will not fail...
8 weights would cause the wheel to balance, my wheel drawing is correctly drawn :)
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