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OU/COP>1 switched cap PS cct like Tesla's 'charge siphoning'

Started by nul-points, April 04, 2008, 11:49:23 PM

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AbbaRue

In the "Free Energy Guide"  FEG 5-9 on the Tesla Switch it states that free energy can be tapped from a battery
because of the delay in the Lead Ions reacting to the drain on the battery,.
By switching the direction of current flow at just the right time an increase in energy is experienced.
FEG 5-9 explains it quite well so I won't try to.

The question is does a capacitor have a similar state to a battery?

If not this would explain why capacitors won't work in a Tesla Switch.

nul-points

Quote from: NerzhDishual on December 24, 2008, 10:08:16 PM
@Poynt99

What is you aim?
"Nul-Points" is a very serious, accurate experimenter and also a very polite, nice,
attentive, friendly and patient person.
I'm not so patient!

Are you another 'OU' Luminary Nitpicker?
IMHO, You sound heavily pontificative.


merci bien, Mr Dishual

c'est de la gnognotte!  ;)


tres cordialement et Joyeux Noel
sandy
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nul-points

Quote from: AbbaRue on December 25, 2008, 01:07:36 PM
In the "Free Energy Guide"  FEG 5-9 on the Tesla Switch it states that free energy can be tapped from a battery
because of the delay in the Lead Ions reacting to the drain on the battery,.
By switching the direction of current flow at just the right time an increase in energy is experienced.
FEG 5-9 explains it quite well so I won't try to.

The question is does a capacitor have a similar state to a battery?

If not this would explain why capacitors won't work in a Tesla Switch.



depends how the capacitor is constructed as to whether it can support any ionic flow in addition to electron flow - suggest you direct this question to a thread which has a 'Tesla Switch' focus

thanks
s.
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"To be is to do"  ---  Jean Paul Sarte;
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allcanadian

@poynt99
QuoteThe text books are correct in this regard. I have proven this to myself with a test of my own here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6090.msg143650#msg143650
I think it should be clarified that the capacitor 50% rule only applies in one circumstance, this does not mean it applies in every circumstance-----there is a very big difference. For instance using an large self-inductance coil and a switch I can charge a capacitor to 400v from a 12v source battery in one single pulse, now how can this 50% rule apply when I have charged the capacitor 388v above the source voltage?. Now what do you think the system efficiency is when you consider the fact that 376v on the capacitor can be returned back to the source? Your rules only apply if you keep doing the same thing over and over, thankfully many here no longer subscribe to that kind of mentality---- we do things a little different ;D.
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Quote from: nul-points on December 25, 2008, 06:45:41 PM

depends how the capacitor is constructed as to whether it can support any ionic flow in addition to electron flow - suggest you direct this question to a thread which has a 'Tesla Switch' focus

thanks
s.

Sandy, how does the construction of a capacitor determine this?
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