The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)

[pauldude000]

@Tish

You started logically, but I really don't know where you are trying to go with this.

Not just this thread, but this whole section is about "Steven Mark's TPU devices". It is an attempt by all here to investigate and reproduce a working TPU device.

If the caduceus winding is of profit in a TPU, then great! If not, then it is a good thing to learn, and may benefit in some other manner through experimentation.

However, I start cocking my head sideways and start questioning when UFO's are brought in as proof of concept.

@all

Concerning the spinning magnets.... I may to have to attempt a graphic to demonstrate the field. I will explain it as best I am able.

Using the "lines of force" analogy: Imagine a bar magnet. The field exits one end, curves around geometrically, and enters the other end.

1. Place this magnet inside a toroid and spin it.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TYPE OF ROTATING FIELD I AM TALKING ABOUT.

2. Now, imagine the same bar magnet with one end chucked into a drill and spinning.

THIS IS NOT IT EITHER.

3. Hold one of your TPU's. Take the same bar magnet, and slide it around the circumference (the outside edge) of the ring, like a train following a track. The same end of the magnet leading all the way around the TPU.

THIS IS THE TYPE OF FIELD I AM SIMULATING.

Some things are hard to describe accurately.

Paul Andrulis

[Spider]

@Paul,

Do you mean something like this
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=get70

Greetings Rene

[tishatang]

@Paul
I agree this is not part of the TPU.  I said in my post this was speculation about a caduceus toroid.  That is why I suggested  that gnOstik start  a new thread.  It is about anti-gravity.  I assumed he would be interested since he bought up the subject of the Deyo video.   The video is part of a UFO conference.  So, naturally Deyo is talking around that subject.  I understand it is not logical from your point of view.  But this video inspired my current concept of the TPU.  It is logical from my point of view to see what else  is there.  If gnOstik is not interested, maybe someone else could start this topic on another thread?  Or maybe Harti can move my last post to anti-gravity?


@Spider
No, you don't have it right.  But it is no use explaining it here until this topic gets moved to a new place.  I am not in a position start a new thread.  Half the time I have to wait a day or two and hope Overunity is available to me.

Tishatang

[pauldude000]

@Tishatang

It's OK, I am not intending to be in any manner antagonistic here, I was just making sure the thread stayed on-topic. Any theories which can lead to a TPU are worth exploring.

For instance, I intend to wind a caduseus coil collector, and test its application, since I hadn't thought of it until you mentioned it, towards this particular aspect. I also intend to try the dual bifiliar (two wires wound side by side) pancake coils on either side of a toroidal magnet. Both of these ideas YOU brought to this forum. Magnets and caduseus coils have been mentioned, but never in this aspect or manner of use that I remember.

Concerning the UFO aspect, I am not stating my particular beliefs of any kind, I am merely stating that using pure speculation about any unproven concept as a base for a new concept becomes a shaky foundation towards usefulness or provability. I could say the same about a number of concepts, including "space-time" itself, or even "infinity" for that manner.

Concepts should be weighed first against provable concepts before turning to the unprovable.

Paul Andrulis

[tishatang]

@Paul

I did not take you as being antagonistic.  I need somebody like you to keep me on track.  I tend to look at things visually.  I guess it's my artistic nature.  I am not an electronics expert.  So, it's like I am trying to write a complex sentence.  But a some of the words are misspelled and the punctuation is missing yet the general idea is communicated. I need you to make sure all the i's are dotted and the t's are crossed so someone else can read the sentence with complete understanding.  The TPU is real and we will take a shot at writing a working manual for it.

I would like to get clear on your concept of the rotating field.  I am not getting the difference between your example #1 and #3.  It seems to me, both would accomplish the same thing?  If we put a shaft through the middle of the bar magnet and stick the shaft into the chuck of a drill press.  Like an armature, the magnet is rotating in the center of the flat horizontal coils.  Parts of the field in #1 would extend straight out the end of the magnet and sweep past the flat coil as it rotates.  It, would be much weaker of course because the magnet in #3 is closer to the wire.  I think this is a good discussion for everyone, because the next step is rotation of the field.  Just what does this field look like we are trying to get rotating?

By the way, I can not seem to find any info on a caduceus toroid other than its use as an antenna.  So, you have the right idea to try it as a collector.

Tishatang