The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)

[pauldude000]

@poynt99 and Buzz

Let me explain a little better my current understanding and it may clear up a little confusion. I think the kick has to do with voltage leading the current on a cold circuit. However, I USED to think it a magnetic field effect, as do many others still. However, I do not think it a magnetic field effect, but probably an electric field effect. I cannot state for sure, as I am guessing at this point. However, what I am seeing ties closely to Loners statement of a "pressure" wave front (or voltage in this case). The "kicks" also tend to caused a damped wave resonance in an improperly tuned circuit, which is what had me fooled for a long time. The effects tend to mask the event.

However, I do know that the "kicks" are easily reproducible, but from my own semi-skeptical viewpoint, I also know that the other scope shots I could produce, excuses would abound about what is being seen.

Almost all of these possible excuses have to do with the magnetic field. Therefore, cancel the field, cancel the excuses.
 
Another major excuse is "transformer action". Remove the possibility of transformer action, no excuse.

Another major excuse is resonance action. Remove the possibility of resonance, no excuse.

Otherwise, I could post scope shots all day long of the effect in various forms, and we would hear nothing but "It is this or that". Reproducing the kicks are simple. Reproducing the kicks where someone cannot easily disregard them is not necessarily so easy.

Now Poynt, I am not saying you would do this, but I know there are hundreds here whom would, and I don't feel like any more senseless arguments from them. What is worse, I know there will be even with the experiment I have designed. 

If anyone sees exceptions to the rule they would like to see canceled out as a possibility, now is the time as I will be doing the scope work/ pics Sunday. (I have been having to work on a stinking car, this afternoon I have to replace a starter, and tomorrow is the sabbath.)

Paul Andrulis

[pauldude000]

@Buzz

Concerning the longer piece of wire.....

I have noticed that too. I wonder why?

I have seen as well that just having a longer piece of wire gives a greater rise in voltage to the kick effect. However, this is contrary to what my understanding and imaginations yields.

Why greater voltage with a longer wire, since it is not an induction effect, nor is it a resonant effect, though it can cause resonation? ? ? ? ? ( Does resistance play a part? ) Because it can modify magnetic fields, it stands to reason that it is tied hand in hand with the magnetic field, which yields me to tentatively think either electric field, or a different moving charge effect.

This is puzzling, but I enjoy solving puzzles. The more difficult the better in my book.

EDIT ADDED:

I have also noticed that there is a relationship to the amount of voltage rise in a given wire to the amount of impressed voltage at a given signal frequency. It is not linear, as with higher impressed voltages comes a much higher voltage spike. It is not linear, it is a mathematical ratio of some kind. Much later, I need to devise a set of experiments where I can define this ratio to a tentative formula.

Paul Andrulis

[buzz-ard]

Let me explain a little better my current understanding and it may clear up a little confusion. I think the kick has to do with voltage leading the current on a cold circuit. However, I USED to think it a magnetic field effect, as do many others still. However, I do not think it a magnetic field effect, but probably an electric field effect. I cannot state for sure, as I am guessing at this point. However, what I am seeing ties closely to Loners statement of a "pressure" wave front (or voltage in this case). The "kicks" also tend to caused a damped wave resonance in an improperly tuned circuit, which is what had me fooled for a long time. The effects tend to mask the event.

IMHO, I do not believe it is a direct magnetic effect either, as kick and inrush occur in circuits in space systems (don't ask). SM's quote from the EE book about kicks was composed before the 70s, and tying the effect to the earth's magnetic field was a convenient explanation at the time. The kick only occurs in a cold circuit, as a warm circuit implies that there is already a pathway established. A warm circuit when pulsed exhibits a surge but no kick. In a cold circuit, there is an induced magnetic component as the fields around the conductor are established and atoms are entrained, just before flow can be measured - this from quantum physics. Also from quantum physics, a small number of 'looser' electrons will entrain more easily than average and start things moving before the coming inrush - this is SM's "kick" and Loner's "wavefront", and can be interpreted as 'free energy' because there was no traditional work done to cause the movement of these electrons. In a broader statement, the kick we see is the establishment of a voltage environment that joules can be transmitted through.

[forest]

IMHO, I do not believe it is a direct magnetic effect either, as kick and inrush occur in circuits in space systems (don't ask). SM's quote from the EE book about kicks was composed before the 70s, and tying the effect to the earth's magnetic field was a convenient explanation at the time. The kick only occurs in a cold circuit, as a warm circuit implies that there is already a pathway established. A warm circuit when pulsed exhibits a surge but no kick. In a cold circuit, there is an induced magnetic component as the fields around the conductor are established and atoms are entrained, just before flow can be measured - this from quantum physics. Also from quantum physics, a small number of 'looser' electrons will entrain more easily than average and start things moving before the coming inrush - this is SM's "kick" and Loner's "wavefront", and can be interpreted as 'free energy' because there was no traditional work done to cause the movement of these electrons. In a broader statement, the kick we see is the establishment of a voltage environment that joules can be transmitted through.

I'm not EE and don't know much about that kick but a magnetic nature and Earth magnetic field as a source or cause seem resonable for me. I recall also SM talking about inertia and this would perfectly explain why this effect manifests itself only in cold circuit. I have no experience in that, please explain - this kick is something hidden behind so called back EMF which occurs always from my experience when pulsing a large self-induction coil like car ignition coil ?

[buzz-ard]

@ Paul - I believe the difference with longer wire is the number of 'loose' electrons present. I, too, have seen that the effect is greater with higher voltages, and there are different voltage levels in each build where the kick shows inordinate gain or little at all. I believe this is in part due to what appears to be a resonance effect but is actually a function of how long it takes the pulse to propagate to the other end coupled with make/break efficiency. Sharp on + tiny ontime + sharp off = maximum kick from both events. SM trimmed the length of his wires to 'tune' them, reducing the amount of time the pulse was on the wire and thus the time to return to a 'cold' state, until it matched the coil arrangement.

How to integrate the effect with suitable coil windings to harness and amplify the resulting output is where I am falling short. Early on in lurking here, I wished for calculations that might tell us the minimum number of turns/wire composition/voltage required. Otto did some work in this direction early on and posted it on the forum (soldering wire!). The necessary calculations would be fairly routine quadratics that could predict the effects of a given change in a given build, but alas, until we can produce something that can be routinely replicated the formulae cannot be constructed.

Until then, perhaps we could determine kick potential in varying lengths and gauges of wire, not unlike Otto did, then try to figure out the number of turns and coil dimensions to produce resonance for the kick frequency. I think I'll spend some time on this soon as I can fire the bench back up.