The TPU uncovered? (A PROBABLE technique.)

[innovation_station]

I have tried to impart the importance of definitions, and generally receive rebuff or rebuke.

However, I am going to break it down. First, has anyone seen what they define as "kicks" on a scope?

The reason I ask, is simple that an oscilloscope does not read amperage..... it reads voltage. Changes in measured voltage over a measured period of time, to be specific.

So, if ANYONE claims to see kicks on a scope, then a change in voltage is involved, pure and simple, or it would not register on the scope to begin with.

Now, the voltage represented on the scope does not have to be the original effect. It can be a side effect of the original effect. I say this as a sudden change in amperage causes a sudden change in voltage as well. So, a high voltage "spike" can well be caused by a sudden change in the applied current.

Now we come back to SM...

Did SM claim to see the kicks? If so on what? If on an oscilloscope, then he was looking for voltage changes.

He stated "current" kicks. This can have TWO CLOSE BUT SEPERATE MEANINGS.

1. It can mean current in the sense of amperage (they are often used synonymously)
2. It can means current in the sense of electron flow (which refers to the entire current of electricity flowing in a wire. Both Voltage and amperage.)

This is just a personal observation, but I infer from his words the second, since I believe he was using an oscilloscope to search for the effect. Being a voltage measuring device, you could never be sure that what you are viewing is a change in amperage.......


Paul Andrulis

unless...  you drop the scope make it work and take a reading and if it peeks more than was applied then i would say you found the kick of current

and the kicks displayed on my scope were of current as well as voltage how do i know my windings or transfromers ...  sing

would they sing with just voltage??  i dont think so unless you some how struck the resonant freq

and also my coil got hot...   fast.... 

ist

[giantkiller]

My bell envelope was on bifilar 40' copper and 40' steel with resonance. 2 and 4 coils.

--giantkiller.

[Bruce_TPU]

ok bruce, i'll ask for help about the spherics stuff.

in your drawing 1, where do you scope it? A-B, A+B, A AND B, A only, B only, which one?

in your drawing 2 you've used the spherics idea and configured it for the Steven Mark version i'm guessing. the kick coils, they are 3 separate coils with their own delay coils. ok, got that. are the 3 kick coils wound as toroidal coils sharing the same toroid form, or are they pointing toward the toroid from outside of it?

it looks to me like you are pointing the 3 control (kick) coils inward toward the toroid.

i'm open to these ideas, but 3 things don't equate to what SM told/showed us:

1. the collector is poloidal, yours/spherics is toroidal
2. the control coils are toroidal around the poloidal collector, your controls are separate solenoid coils pointing inward
3. SM calls for a frequency and 2 of its harmonics. spherics calls for 1 phase-shifted frequency.

appreciate any help on these points/questions.

Hi Poynt99,

Yes, I took three seperate distinct "kick coils and placed them in a "Y" with all of the North pole ends facing towards the middle.  Towards the collector(s).  Once one learns to produce the kick in one "kick coil" then this is reproduced in three or four coils.  These are then "rotated" at high speed.  SM did use harmonics.  But I doubt he did so with his first experiment or first TPU.

Spherics says that the iron coil needs to be at least three feet distance from the bifilar coil.  This is for everyone to test.  SM figured out how to bring the iron coil close in to the toroid, but I do not want to talk about that now.

SM's TPU's had this small bit of iron in them, that is why they heated up...Eddy currents in the iron.  But no one hear will get theirs to work with the iron on the TPU, because they do not know how to bring the iron in close.  So.o.o  ... Keep the iron coil three feet away when doing the experiment.

Goal would be to mfg. the kick, rotate it, and then figure out a way to remove the iron coil and mfg the delay electronically.  But first use the iron! 

I will post a pic tonight of where Spherics said to put the scope, or you can look it up.  I am not at home.  EM Devices drew the circuit with where to put the scope. 

Hope that helps,

Bruce   (Will anyone besides Spider, experiment???  with this...)

[pauldude000]

@innovation

Oscilloscopes just measure voltage.... I don't know what to tell you?!? That is a simple fact of life.

You could look for rapid current fluctuation with a sensitive ammeter I suppose. If you want to see a trace however, I personally do not know of any devices available for amperage. It would be nice though...

Maybe a person could make some form of attachment for a scope, to convert amperage readings to voltage readings. I don't know.

However, what you have seen on your scope is pure voltage.

Paul Andrulis

[innovation_station]

yes i do know this but  when my bulb is lit and my scope is not connected  the supper bright flashes of light are NOT  voltage alone....

ist