Stanley Meyers Coil USes Volts not Amps to create HHO

[z.monkey]

Howdy Y'all,

What kind of water are you using in the electrolyzer cell when you are putting the high voltage on it?

That circuit is a DC to DC converter.  It takes 12 volts DC and steps it up to, say, like 48 volts DC, or whatever you want if you get an adjustable one.  You just have to build the circuit, you don't need a printed circuit board.  It will probably work better with wires anyway.  Grab a chunk of protoboard, and solder some components to it.  Get some wire and make the connections.  You'll get better with practice.

I think the system needs higher amplitude, but also it needs the right frequency and wave shape.  With out resonance the cell probably will only barely work.  To get it to work properly, the driver circuit will have to be tuned to resonate with the electrolyzer cell to solicit maximum HHO production.

So, anyway, tap water is conductive to high voltages.  To get the high voltage coil to work you will need to use deionized water, like pure distilled water, no additives.  To high voltage the tap water is a dead short.  The deionized water is not conductive, but at ignition coil voltages I don't know.  Insulators become conductors at high voltages.

Have Fun...

[cyrus]

Thats a good bit of info monkey.

I'm using just regular tap water. Is there a simpler way to get at least 24 volts out of my 12v battery? If i can at least get that much ill get a better understanding on how to do it. Im having a hard time finding the right parts at my local radio shack so anything simple to do would be awesome. Id also like to use my PWM since i bought it already

[z.monkey]

Howdy,

Simple way to get 24 Volts, put 2 batteries in series.  Why do you want 24 volts?  Tell me about the PWM unit, give a part number, manufacturers name, frequency ratings, voltage rating.

OK, Mo later...

[cyrus]

Lawton D14 based PWM:

Input Voltage: 5-30volts DC
Current: 0-6amps (fuse protected)
Max Feq: (up to)500khz
Has Digital Ammeter

I doesnt have to be 24 volts i just want to get a little step up going so i understand the basics. Once i learn how to do that I can go bigger. I want to get as many volts as i can. But id like it to be DC and consistent. Or at least so i can pulse it with my PWM.

[z.monkey]

Howdy Cyrus,

Check this out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyers
Whatever voltage you are using you need to tune the driver board to the load and/or transformer your connected to.  Do you have an oscilloscope?  That D14 board has 4 pots on it for changing the timing and phase of the output pulses.  That ignition coil is an iron core transformer that will not respond to frequencies above 500 Hertz.  a better frequency to start with would be more like 60 Hertz.  In the Wiki link above there is a circuit for Stanley Meyer;s water fuel cell.  He is using a toroidal core transformer.  You could use a regular EI Iron core step down transformer to do this.  You can get one at an electronics store for a few bucks.  This would give your circuit somewhere in the range of 100 Volts, instead of tens of thousands.  Study the schematic from the Wiki link.

OK, Mo Later...