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Tesla Patent 512340 REDUX

Started by allcanadian, April 16, 2008, 08:15:46 PM

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springfield

Quote from: allcanadian on April 17, 2008, 09:18:06 PM
I believe there is more happening in Teslas coil that we realize...
... yes, the diagram shows a distributed inductance. There must surely be a difference between a string of independent little inductors versus a similar string of inductors that are would on the same core and therefore magnetically coupled...?
-Mike

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Grumpy

@allcanadian

I venture a guess that with a pancake coil - the ether field, tempic field, torsion field, or whatever name you choose - is parallel to the axis of the coil.  electric field follows the wire around - magnetic field is perpendicular to this and therefore point inward-outware across the coil, and this leave the axis direction for the "other" field.

G
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allcanadian

Here is another piece of the puzzle for you ;D
At a frequency of 60Hz a full wavelength is 5000 Kilometers long, a half-wavelength is 2500 kilometers long. So we can say the peak potential will occur at a  1/4 wavelength or 1250 Km and the minimum potential at 3/4 wavelength or 3750 Km. Knowing this it is safe to say in a pancake coil with conductors 1m long will never have a maximum potential difference between them---- the conductors are too short.
However at 300 Mz the wavelength is 1m long, if we now took a 2m conductor and folded it in half and connected as in Patent 512340 then the maximum and minimum potentials would overlap and the capacitance between them be maximized.In Teslas Coil the end of conductor A(1m) is attached to the beginning of conductor B(1m) thus in the coil the potentials min and max could overlap.
If this is the case then geometry or component placement has an important role to play, a light bulb could light if attached to one part of a wire but not the next with high frequency currents. I think this is something nobody has considered, we see a black and white world where there is current and voltage--induction,  but ignore the mass of components and where they are placed in relation to other components in regards to there fields and capacitive effects. So I think it should be understood that Patent 512340 is a tuned coil, to a specific frequency and in relation to the components that drive it.
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Grumpy

The velocity of the impulse is not necessarily the speed of light.  Tesla stated that his waves propagated  at Pi/2xC.

this does not necessarily mean the impulse is travelling down the wire.  Dollard touched on this, but I can not recall whether he determined that this was a group velocity or a phase velocity - I believe he said it was a phase velocity.


Guess you can tune the discharger and the coil for max spark between the end and ground - 1/4 wave length.
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