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HWL Cell

Started by AbbaRue, April 17, 2008, 01:39:10 AM

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mdmiller

one PS:, instead of the oven, try puting the wet crystal honey material in the refrigerator to initially form the crystals.  then into a just-warm oven to finish the dry.  At least with RS, the sooper-cooled honey crystalized quickly in the fridge when exposed to a magnetic field.

AbbaRue

Thanks for the ideas mdmiller
I will try the refrigerator.
Interesting, I was going to suggest the earth battery people try some map. around there earth batteries.
I've been planing to try some earth batteries as well this summer.

So far I'm getting the highest voltages from the thinest layers.
Maybe this is a key for these cells, using large area thin layers.
Could have something to do with frequency, I understand the thiner a crystal is
the higher the frequency it oscillates at, so very thin layers may even pick up high frequency radio waves.
Coating something like sand with a thin layer may get interesting effects.

resonanceman

Quote from: AbbaRue on April 18, 2008, 02:17:24 PM
Thanks for the ideas mdmiller
I will try the refrigerator.
Interesting, I was going to suggest the earth battery people try some map. around there earth batteries.
I've been planing to try some earth batteries as well this summer.

So far I'm getting the highest voltages from the thinest layers.
Maybe this is a key for these cells, using large area thin layers.
Could have something to do with frequency, I understand the thiner a crystal is
the higher the frequency it oscillates at, so very thin layers may even pick up high frequency radio waves.
Coating something like sand with a thin layer may get interesting effects.


Harold

It is interesting that  you are getting higher  voltages  from   thinner layers.

If  you are right  and it  has something to do with  frequency ......then  the   voltage   is  probably not  galvanomic

My  focus with the  earth  batterys   is mostly on their non galvanomic output

In my opinion  if it is a galvanomic prosess  it is  just a battery ,,,,,even if  it lasts many  years .
If  it  is non galvanomic ........then it is  true  overunity ......and  may last a very long time .


gary

AbbaRue

I have been looking for a table of curie temperatures for the various piezoelectric materials,
but have not been able to locate one. I need to know what it is for MAP.
I found melting the stuff causes it to break down releasing phosphorus into the air.
It melts at about 200 deg C, so it should be safe to heat to it's curie temp.

resonanceman

Quote from: AbbaRue on April 18, 2008, 11:37:26 PM
I have been looking for a table of curie temperatures for the various piezoelectric materials,
but have not been able to locate one. I need to know what it is for MAP.
I found melting the stuff causes it to break down releasing phosphorus into the air.
It melts at about 200 deg C, so it should be safe to heat to it's curie temp.

AbbaRue

Have  you  tried  drying  it with out heat ?

I   read  on one site that   Map is one of the easiest  and  safest things   you  can  grow crystals  with .




Is Map  something that is   just not sold in  small quantities ?   

I have  found   places that  sell it by the pallet ........but  nothing  small


gary