Roll on the 20th June

[hartiberlin]

Archer, many thanks for the pic.
Are these some kind of electromagnet rings around your tubes to pull up and accelerate your weights inside the tubes ?

[ramset]

Archer  will we build these now?  Chet

[ramset]

Archer perhaps just a parts list for those?    Chet

[oak]

Here's my best guess (on the photo).

What you see are neo disk or ring magnets, with all N faces up & all S faces down (or vice versa).  The magnets are placed on a rod that runs most of the length of the tube.  At the opposite end of the rod you have the same thing:  a series of disk or ring magnets.  Polarity for those magnets is 180 degrees from this first set, so that the same poles always face out (toward the near end of their tube).

At somewhere around 1 or 2 o'clock, an electromagnet placed outside the reach of the tube (which is rotating end over end) is pulsed to yank the rod & magnets toward it.  The magnets in the tube nearest the electromagnet are pulled to the end of the tube, and shift overall weight toward the right.

It may be that another electromagnet is on the opposite side (7 to 8 o'clock), with opposite polarity, to help push the rod & magnets away.  But this may complicate things unnecessarily.

(Another possibility is the solenoid idea I mentioned earlier (with coils around each tube end to move the rod & magnets), but this also makes the device more complicated because you have the problem of transferring electric current from the generator to the moving tubes.)

I am not sure what Archer is getting at with the falling satellite analogy.  Perhaps it is that you somehow are using the movement of the magnets within the tube toward the upper right as a component of the gravity boost.

Edit to add:  I just noticed that the spaces between the disks are wider than the underlying rod -- I don't know if that has any significance.  Also I don't understand (if my guess above is correct) there would be any spaces between the disks -- it would seem to work the same if all the magnets were stuck together.  So perhaps I'm off base here.

[sm0ky2]

@ Oak, i was going to say washers,  but your idea is much more creative...

if we use the sattellite analogy as a reference, then a 12 inch radial-location of the weights around the "up" side of the disk would have to be::

rotating at approx. 429,772 RPM to defy the gravitational force upon the mass of the weights.

this would give us roughly 1 / 7000th of a second to move the weights from one side to the other.

so i have to say, that NO, the sattellite analogy is not relevent.

as far as the 2 electro-magnets is concerned:: 
you cant assume that a gravity-powered device is producing the same ammount of power used by TWO electromagnets working together.

the power produced by this kind of set-up is less than half of the input power.  closer to 1/2 - additional losses
so by substituting 1 of the electromagnets with a permanent magnet, thereby halving your losses, the output will still be less than the input.   if it produced 10watts, and consumed 26w. then by getting rid of 1 of the electromagnets, it would then be producing 10 watts and consuming 13w

you have to take into consideration the original efficieny of the system before assuming that halving the losses results in overunity.  a system using dual-electromagnets in this manner is less than 50% efficient to begin with. so halving the losses IS a good thing, but the end result is less than 100%.  NOT 150%.......


This man is incredibly intelligent, despite his belligerence.

It would be real hard to convince me, at this point, that hes not intentionally overlooking this type of thing.
he did the same thing with the Archer's Loop, and his sattellite description,  and now hes doing it with the dual-electromagnet set-up.

Are we to believe that he "accidently" failed to see this type of blunder, repeatedly, even after it was pointed out to him?  in multiple situations?    I have seen no monitary incentive on Quinn's part, hes definately not trying to scam anyone here.   I'm really confused about his motives, because whatever they are , they are not obvious at the surface..   Maybe he just likes the ego-trip, i dont know...  maybe he really thinks his device does/will work.
maybe his device ACTUALLY does work..

But the fact that he continually misrepresents information  (apparently intentionally) to support the things hes claiming, is completely absurd.  I'm kind of astonished that im the only person who sees this happening.... (or that is stepping in to say something about it)