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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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libra_spirit

OK I did an experiment.

A yard stick carefully balanced at the center, drilled a hole at 18 inches and then shaved the heavy end to a perfect balance. Tied with a string to the ceiling.

I now take sets of same length test clip leads and start to experiment.
I place one clip lead 10 inches to the right of the center, and one at 2 inches the other side. This is a distance ratio of 5 to 1.
The yardstick tilts to about 40 degrees incline and comes to rest.

I now start clipping more leads to the high side at the 2 inch distance to locate the balance point.

Guess what? When I get to a count of 5 the yardstick is back to perfect balance.
It would appear that Mr Newton is correct as to lifting the weight of clip leads on a yardstick lever of perfect balance. 5 times the distance = 5 times the weight.

Ok now to investigate momentum. I press down on one side to see what happens for an oscillation and discover the yardstick swings evenly, neither side goes higher then the other and the stick acts as if it were balanced comming back to rest perfectly flat to the floor.

We could argue about things like friction, but I think that a distance to a distance squared claim is out of the question here.
My lever will not balance 20 to 1 on weight with 5 to 1 ratio of distance. Neither does momentum seem to care which end is rising or falling, they act the same.

No one has however yet answered my first question, if both sides have the same weight why does the balance come to rest only when parallel to the floor? As one side is lifted does it become heavier? What would Newton say???

When the scale is out of level what force starts it moving, and why is this force so strong? How can this force be gone when both sides are at the same height? This force is spining the system with considerable power at only a 45 degree incline on release.

Dave L


kude

@greendoor
I guess I don't have a problem with backyard or garage experimenters using their own money to work out their concepts. He's not harming anyone by his pursuits. If you recognize that he is very anti establishment then you'll understand the language and attitude. I look through that to follow the man's ideas (which is a challenge). Actually, if you watch the videos he's made he seems to be a nice guy at heart.

When someone is experimenting I would assume you're really out there. It takes time to figure out the math. I like others am following this to see what happens. What's so terrible about following a wild idea or having big dreams? It's not like the government spending billions on whatever.

I read about this topic on Autoblog or Jalopnik, and found it interesting, so that's how I came here.

@science guys
I think we got your point that you don't think any of this will work. You don't quite own AQ yet until the finished devices are shown.

And if none of this works the way he hoped, I'm not going to trash the man for trying to do something.

I guess I wonder what happened to the original wheel he was working on?

libra_spirit

Next experiment:

I use the balance yardstick to investigate tilt of a rod shifting both sides by 33 percent distance.

With one clip lead on each end at 12 inches out each balanced [2 foot span], I shift both leads 4" the same direction. The angle is now well over 45 degrees. I double the weight by adding a lead to both sides and get maybe another 5 degrees.

From a strick balance standpoint, then shifting the weight by 33 percent to one side should not bring the rod all the way down, momentum must do the rest! The rod with a string to the center would not reach the bottom of the wheel for the longer end from a static type of balance beam model. From about 5 oclock on, gravity will not be aiding the wheels rotation, and momentum must take over.

Dave L




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libra_spirit

In my last experiment the yard stick represents the wheel, and the clip leads the sliding rods. This experiment shows clearly that the gravity power is added only from top  to about 5 oclock at best, and only a very extreme off centered weight system would continue to push down anywhere from 5 to 6 oclock on the rods. This was a surprise to me. They will come into balance somewhere before reaching the bottom. The next rod starts falling by then however so forwards gravity power can be maintained as long as the rods keep lifting on the other side of the turn.

My other surprise was how hard the off balanced weights do actually push downwards even though they are not that far off balanced.
What is this force and where does it come from? Shifting a rod side ways moves its resting balance angle from 3 oclock down towards 5 oclock, and turns its active power stroke angle down into the 2 to 5 oclock area.

Do I think this will work, from the models already built, very likely.
Does the power come from Gravity? Not Newtonian gravity! LOL!
Its a combination gravity magnet motor, and we already know that magnet motors are possible.
It looks like a pulsed gravity flywheel system!
Using pulsing magnets to power the lift, and then extending the off balanced weight radius, both are sound concepts.
Will it turn an electric generator? I sure hope so! Might want to keep the drive belt loose and vibrating or add a flywheel in between the two. Only problem will be noise.

Dave L