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Overunity Machines Forum



Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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exxcomm0n

Quote from: shakman on June 20, 2008, 03:08:47 PM
@exxcomm0n

With regards to power companies throttling their output to meet demand, I read this article recently that might be of interest to you:

http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/17/beacon-power-hopes-to-juggle-electricity-more-efficiently/

Cheers,

Shakman

That's it!

Thanks man!

I've always liked flywheels. It's just when they break, all hell breaks loose.

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am1ll3r

Where do you think you're going? Nobody's leaving. Nobody's walking out on this fun, old-fashioned family Wheel! No, no. We're all in this together. This is a full-blown, four-alarm Over unity emergency here! We're gonna press on, and we're gonna have the hap-hap-happiest Wheel since Bing Crosby tap-danced with Danny f**king Kaye. And when Archer squeezes his fat white ass down that chimney tonight, he's gonna find the jolliest bunch of a**holes this side of the nut house!


Couldn't resist ;D
Keep at it Archer :D

-am1ll3r

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sm0ky2

Quote from: shakman on June 20, 2008, 01:21:36 PM
They are actually moving the wheel in the same direction. It's just that when observed from each side the are moving counter-rotationally.

So one side appears to be moving the wheel clockwise. Walk to the other side and it is moving counterclockwise. The idea is that you have double the firing positions without worrying as much about real-estate on the wheel.

It also means that the wheel can run balanced without requiring to be "sandwiched" between another board, great for observational purposes, especially when tinkering. We've all seen the trouble Archer has had to go to in order to show us what's happening inside the wheel (broken rods etc).

But I will say again, I am running a lot on assumptions. Unfortunately I'm not in a position to build/test right now so I thought I'd do the next best thing and do some concept work. It would be great if any builders out there could test some of my concepts out though.

Shakman

im not trying to rain on your parade or anything, that looks like you spent a great deal of time drawing that out.. but i feel the need to point out, that the magnets on BOTH sides of the wheel should be in the SAME location.  i.e. - 7 and 1 o'clock respectively.   Placing magnets on the other 2 quadrants, causes rotation in the OTHER direction!!! meaning total motive force on the wheel = 0 ZERO, nitch, nill, nada....
both halves will be fighting each other.   when yur looking at either side, they do appear to be opposite, but in the "back" of the drawings, you drew the mags on the wrong sides.
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

shakman

Quote from: sm0ky2 on June 20, 2008, 05:21:20 PM
im not trying to rain on your parade or anything, that looks like you spent a great deal of time drawing that out.. but i feel the need to point out, that the magnets on BOTH sides of the wheel should be in the SAME location.  i.e. - 7 and 1 o'clock respectively.   Placing magnets on the other 2 quadrants, causes rotation in the OTHER direction!!! meaning total motive force on the wheel = 0 ZERO, nitch, nill, nada....
both halves will be fighting each other.   when yur looking at either side, they do appear to be opposite, but in the "bac" of the drawing, they are on the wrong sides.

Absolutely no offence taken. I'm a newbie with fresh ideas and like many ideas, they need good critical input. I actually appreciate your feedback.

You are probably right. But I would have thought the other way round (i.e. the way I have done it) would be right.

Here's my logic, which I admit is potentially fataly flawed but this looks okay to me (as a fully unqualified armchair scientist - hehe):

If you were to build Archer's wheel but wanted it to spin the opposite way, you would need to mirror the magnetic setup on the inside and outside of the wheel across the horizontal to get the arms to operate the arms to drive the wheel in the opposite direction. By doing this all of the arms on a transparent wheel would all appear to follow the same elliptical path. I think this is key to the momentum of the wheel (the overbalancing effect).

Please feel free to point out any holes in my logic with some explanation. If there are holes, they are probably painfully obvious to some. NB The logic above assumes that the wheel actually works in it's one sided configuration

But seeing as I'm not in a position to build I will have to take your word for it. Hopefully someone will be able to test this in a real world setup for us...?

Shakman