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Overunity Machines Forum



Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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usama salah

if you think the wheel was easy this will blow your fucking mind. Your world ends as you know it tonight, as i said my partner understood it in seconds, if you do not, have someone help you walk across the road.


why you think like that , while your partener understood it there are a lot of scientists and non scientists understood  it , so the world dosn't end with any one , or everyone  who understood it must be walked across the road.

as i anderstand time is past for any reaction , so go a head the wheel is very easy.

pequaide

Consentrate all the momentum of the spinning wheel back into the over balanced mass, and the over balanced mass will rise higher than what it was dropped. But you can not leave the mass connected to the wheel you must separate it and let it rise as in a pendulum. 

Morgenster

Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on May 07, 2008, 03:56:08 PM
@moganster

as to centrifuge, boy that is very poor science, get a string and tie a weight to the end and swing it around, does someone have a weight not making a circle??????????????? wow that would be better science than this machine, centrifugal force is equal at all points so it is equally pulling toward the other side of the rod.

as to the other point a series of bar magnets in an arch would suffice even if the following wer not true, an arch magnet does hae a slight compression of fields due to the arch, but it is more common in small motor magnets(no doubt where you saw this) but a wide curve has almost none, in any event the argument is silly, if you start to get early drop off then move the arc around to maintain the perfect drop point.

That's cool. Some very valid points that make the machine all the more insightful. I'm still not convinced, but your answers certainly make me think twice.

I'm still curious about how you calibrate these different weights and magnet strengths for your machine. Is there a formula or do you do this by trial and error? I think this is important for people who want to replicate your machine but on a different scale.

sigmaX

The Eskimo Quinn:  About the lift, and the torque. YOU GOT IT ALL BASICALLY WRONG! 

Now, as you seem to write everything in bad manners, and using swear words, as if they are reasuring for you, let me give you a taste of your very own medicine:

For a start: YOU typed that "fallacy filled" example. YOU Placed the concept of a L*i*f*t* creating the torque for 1000kg BY THE NEED OF PLACING 10 100kg persons over it. SO THE VERY SAME THING THAT IN VERY BAD MANNERS AND LANGUAGE you are trying to convince us is WRONG (torque <> lift) is proposed by your very own hands.

IN YOUR EXAMPLE, you need 1ton torque (your typing), and so you put a lift (and later an arm) with such weight, in order to generate such torque (your thinking). Hence the lift creates the neccesary torque.

THEN YOU PLACE ANOTHER ARM opposite to the first (one at 1 oclock the other at 7 oclock)...

THEN you place in both arms 900kg ... and INCREDIBLY ENOUGH (completely, utherly dangerously *HEY YOU SHOULD BE WASHING DISHES IN SOME RESTAURANT AND NOT PLAYING WITH THESE CONCEPTS, BEFORE YOU GET HARMED BY ONE OF YOUR EXPERIMENTS*  you state (your writing) that it is enough for ONE 100kg person to go from platform to platform, placing the 100kg needed at each arm to reach the 1000kg needed for the correct torque.

NOPE ... NO ! NIET! RIIING WRONG IDEA / MY DAUGHTER OF 4 YEARS COULD DO BETTER REASONING: You will NOT  get 1000kg torque .... because the arm has 900kg counterweight on the other side. SO your effective lift to torque force will be 100kg: That is: the extra weight that unbalances again the system.

Miracles don?t and won?t happen ...  you won't get the 1000 ton torque with a "motor" capable of doing 100kg torque. Sorry...

sigmaX


sigmaX

Now just for clarity: I AM quite ignorant in the physics topic. I only applied my common sense, which could be flawed.

ALSO MAYBE, if you apply extra energy on the start (a "1 ton and something" push) .... those opposing  900kg weights would start to play in centripetal force, and I assume that it might help very much to create the 1ton toque ... and maybe, the energy needed to keep the thing going would be actually less (only to somewhat fill the necessary missing weight to keep the thing going) than the overall energy that the dynamo is creating.

BUT hey ... I am rebutting your textual example ... if now you are just placing -bible wise- hidden hints like the one I am telling in the upper paragraph, in the form of flawed parables, that is another story.

SigmaX