Roll on the 20th June

[The Eskimo Quinn]

so by my calculations, if it took 2 seconds of fall to generate 39200 joules, that would equate to 19.6 kw per hour divided by 30 to get lots of two seconds equals 653 watts for that two second bracket, times 10 cycles per hour equals 6.53 kilowatts x 8 hours euals 52 kilowatts per day.

that seems a little high, after all the total run time is 20 second per hour or 160 seconds per day, 52 kilowatts for 160 seconds seems high, yet the math seems correct, though i guess if you had a 10 metre wheel with a 1 kilo object falling 10 meters 400 times in 2 seconds, that is 1kg @ 12000 rpm 

it would mean a forklift would use 52k of energy to lift 400 kilos up 10 meters 80 times (ten times per hour x 8 hours) or 650 watts per lift I suppose that would not be out of the question as close; so at roughly .4 litre per kilowatt hour 22 litres of fuel or $25 in diesel, the price for 52kws of electricity, so it could be correct in that weird method of logic.

I may just have the joule calculation wrong

[sm0ky2]

1 kilowatt-hour = 3,600,000 Joules

so, if it generated 39,200 J in a 2sec drop,
it would have to drop 92 times to generate 1 Kwh

[The Eskimo Quinn]

yeah see that can't be right either, that is too far the other way, a 400kg weight falling 10 meters would squash a car flat, there is no way, that 12watts could squash a car, and 1 kw certainly could not squash 90 cars, a hair dryer runs at 2 kw, hell even a 100 watt bulb run of a battery for a week could not generate enough energy from an enire battery to squash a car flat, though 12 volts can blow a human to ash at 10,000amps, there must be something like amperage/ velocity missing from the equation. I used cubic feet like in water falling at a dam  for 30 feet and got reasonable kw per , 1litre to a kilo dead fall.

1 litres = 0.0353146667 cubic feet


Power = (10 feet) x (500 cubic feet per second) x (0.80) / 11.8 = 339 kilowatts (from the dam website)

i used  (30 feet) x 14.12 (cubic feet per second) x (0.80)/11.8 = 28.71 kilowatts per hour divided by 60 seconds = .4785 x 2 seconds = .957kw per hour  for 2 seconds x 80 falls per day= 76.56kw per day x 365 = 27944kw pa

falling weight is falling weight, i think this is correct, unless you have a machine that can squash a car flat with 12 watts, there must be something missing from the other equation

[fritznien]

your mixing power and energy.
12 watts is power the rate work is done.
40,000 j is energy.enough to lift 400kg 10 meters.
12 watts for an hours is more than enough energy to smash a car.
if you put all the terms in, time power etc it will all be much clearer.
fritznien

[The Eskimo Quinn]

None of it matters anymore, It may not be the 20th of June but i did it, not the drive i was working on, but when designing mechanics for a hydro drive i found what bessler must have found, Overunity, very simple actually, he discovered it because the motion was not perpetual or continuous, who would have thought that the machine needed to stop dead, checked the math, try the mechanics it worked, am lodging a patent for it, have no fear it will not be for power companies, simply for royalties on manufacturing them, so i don't have to work again, with a public release clause in my will so knocking me off will be worse. the upside is that for any machine built for personal use as per normal patent laws there is no protection if you only use it yourself, so the patent copy when lodged will be loaded here also for anyone to use for personal use, and it is easy.

I imagine besslers device was more complex as he did not have access to electrical switching, and devise some sort of timing mechanism.

All those who contributed to the wheel will be well taken care of.

This is no joke or hoax, i showed my missus who understood the math and then watched me produce more energy out than in by roughly 75 percent extra, she only saw it as weight not electricity, the upside is the device can run dam sized turbines as easily as power a house with the ratio staying in tact. will also be ensuring that i manufacture them myself to keep the prices affordable for all mankind

my mind is blown completely will be back on when confirmation of patent alignment is in hand, expect 2 days to write it up and cover every angle of protection.

Do not give up though, this cannot be installed in a car like a magnetic drive.

really is true, my kids lives on it

genuine easy to build overunity to run normal generators, not some orbo run an led light maybe. and anyone on here could do it and understand it with the first 60 second of reading it.

mind blowing