Roll on the 20th June

[sm0ky2]

by exxcomm0n

Yeesh.

It's YEARS after the proposed (and now it seems indefinitely postponed) "release" of proof and there is yet to be built a successful SOG,.....

the original 'toy' device works.
im confident now that archers first one worked, just as mine did and the youtube guy. thats 3

i've carefully studied everything that has been since proposed, from the time archer went off on a tangent and started throwing 5 gallons of water 20-feet into the air just to prove a point..
to the magnetic-loops,
(batmans mayernick was the best by the way...)
to that rediculous hair-dryer convection loop...

some of them were great innovations, but i saw nothing about overunity in any of them.  his ultimate "sword of god" design that he morphed into on a large scale, obviously had too many 'problems' to substantiate Newton's Destruction. because he dismantled it and stopped showing us videos.

wether or not he could have gotten that to work if he kept trying.. who knows.
what i do know is the simpler design at the begining of the thread works, not only with two magnetic arrays, but also with only one lower array. theres no question that it does what it does and produces, albeit a tiny ammount,.. more power than the cycle consumes and allows the system to perpetuate.

i still maintain my stance of uselessness. size for size,. a 10-15 inch wheel that weights a few pounds magnets and all, MIGHT- be able to turn a small DC motor under load, while keeping enough power to keep running. that doesnt make it any less important in achieving our goals here. the fact that this exists and can be replicated is a huge step forward in the advancement of OU research.

we know how and why this works. we're just starting to figure out all of the problems and get rid of them systematically.

theres always going to be people that yell at you, and tell you man cannot fly, thats for the birds..  archemedes flew. and so did the wright brothers. today, we dont even think about stepping onto an airplane and traveling across the country or to the other side of the world...  the question is, in 300 years will they look back and see the full potential of what Archer Quinn offered to the world?
or will it be swept under the rug like Howard Johnson, Tesla, Pascal, Morray, Schauberger, bhaskara and countless others...

personally, im not giving up on this until i have one thats stable enough i can take around and show people.

[maw2432]

@ SmOky2

Do you have any photos or videos of the "original 'toy' that device works."

Bill

[sm0ky2]

@ SmOky2

Do you have any photos or videos of the "original 'toy' that device works."

Bill

if i had to guess, i'd say somewhere between pages 10 and 138
when i posted the first good replica, theres a few videos on my youtube page that show the wooden wheel, during the construction phase. i documented what i was doing up to the point when it broke itself apart unrepairably.

out of roughly 36 variations,. thers only 3 or so that i thought were worth even showing to anyone, and possibly a 4th that demonstrated what NOT to do.. the rest either went into the trash or dismantled and recycled for parts, ect.

some of the pictures were posted earlier in the thread, but this whole debacle was going on on 4 different forums and a website..  and i honestly cant tell you what was posted where.

the device is very simple in operation, i broke it down as best i could in the later part of the thread once i figured it all out.
you can make it work with virtually any magnet size/strength
although Neos and stronger mags might require a little more accuracy.
ive been using ferrites and ceramics

simple test, put them above each other, and the ones with the furthest lift are your best bet.

its simply using the difference between the magnetic lift force
and the gravitational down force.

once i figured out how it works, 100% of the problems havent been with the operation of the device, but with the logistics and mechanical construction of the replicas. There are a lot of slamming, crashing, weights pulling against the parts, and stuff just breaks..

the wooden one with square rods is probably the best one to see, picture and video wise,
theres a whole other set of problems with using square rods, but it will give you a good idea of how this thing works.

[AB Hammer]

@ SmOky2

Do you have any photos or videos of the "original 'toy' that device works."

Bill

Here is Smoky2's youtube sight.

http://www.youtube.com/user/sm0ky2#p/u

[maw2432]

@ Smoky2
You said " its simply using the difference between the magnetic lift force
and the gravitational down force."

All of my attempts have shown too much magnetic lift force.... creating what I call a back wall (EMF) resulting in not enough gravity force to keep the rotor going.  When I reduce that force by distance etc. it is not enough to get through the gate where gravity takes over.    Do you think materials make a difference?   Neo's then some less stronger ferrite magnets at the trailing end of the rotation?