Roll on the 20th June

[b0rg13]

sorry its taking so long

never uploaded a vid to youtube

it should be up some time

not sure when

great work Redriderno , looks VERY promising !!.

[The Eskimo Quinn]

better get your shit together dusty redrhino has the correct design.

well done, fix the axel and i will put it on the front page of the site along with dusty's

Archer

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I would suspend the 2 gates on ropes.
of equal mass. and when one gate is closed, the bottom of the upper gate sits at least twice the height of the lower gate.

you have a counter-weight, which you can flip back and forth from a rope at a distance, as wel as release the gate locks
the gates raise and close each other, and lock into place so when ones down, you cant lift its weight.

the momentum of the moving gates operates to lift the counterweight to the top. where it flips away and the gate locks in the upper position.

Aha, sm0ky finally mentions the main trick - the counterweight sistem which makes the gate weightless. Then the rest is easy, depending mostly on someones innovativity...

To shift gates, one could use an acoustic converter... Just yell "open, sesame!", or "Heil Archer!" to operate the gate...
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[Rusty_Springs]

Aha, sm0ky finally mentions the main trick - the counterweight sistem which makes the gate weightless. Then the rest is easy, depending mostly on someones innovativity...

To shift gates, one could use an acoustic converter... Just yell "open, sesame!", or "Heil Archer!" to operate the gate...


Hi All
I could be wrong but didn't it say nothing connected to the gate from the house and wouldn't the ropes be connected to the gate.
Take Care All
Graham

[Man-K]

Morning all,
Just thought I would share where I am with my own build.

No offence to Archer but every single claim of OU or PM in the past has been horsesh!t so I certainly wasn?t going to be spending any money on this build until I could at least prove the principle, so after reading the barely legible information Archer posted (sorry Archer, you may have a logical thought process that far out stretches ours but your use of the written English language is even worse than mine!) I decided to do this in three stages.

First I would build toy version. Assuming it works it?s certainly not going to save me any money, but since I have enough parts lying around it wouldn?t cost me anything either, so it seemed logical to start here. Also even as a toy it will still be a wonder to behold and a useful tool for illustrating Archer?s principles to others since nobody I work with (within the R&D industry) is simply going to turn their back on scientific and engineering convention based on the words of a technician like me.

Enough of the waffle.

Below is my first attempt, It didn?t work, but not because Archer is wrong, that has yet to be tested, but because I made a few oversights. (Why does over sight and over see mean opposite things?). To give you a sense of scale, I have used 5mm diameter ND magnets, you can see M4 bolts and that?s a telephone cord in the backgroud.


To start I knew I would need a good bearings and the only thing I could think of that we had to hand in that labs was a computer fan. So I opened it up and removed the ring magnet so that span freely without clunking between poles. (If version 2 works I will photograph it with the fan cable on display so that you all know I haven?t simply plugged it in and conned you all.
Next I attached some hard board because I had it lying around and it?s quick and easy to work with, if a little messy.

The hard part was the mount for the sliding shafts and here?s where I started making mistakes (remember I was doing this resourcefully with rubbish lying around and during work hours).
   I got a 20mm diameter rod of nylon and cut off a 10mm high cylinder. I marked on it (still visible on the picture) three lines each at 60 degrees from each other and then dilled three holes length ways at 2mm spacing. (The metal spacer you can see between the nylon and the fan is only a spacer and serves no other function, if the fan has too much resistance I might make this a flywheel in a foreseeable third version but at the moment it seems unnecessary)
   The rods are made from (don?t laugh) strained paperclips. I simple dropped a blob of solder on at the appropriate location so that the rods prevented the magnets from ever actually touching.
   The ends of the paper clips were bent so that the magnets (stuck on with a crude glue gun) where all in line with each other (all in the same plane in other words).

As the photo shows, only one set of magnets were attached to the board, this was more than enough to show my mistake.

The shaft rods (paperclips) are too flexible and can rotate. This results in the magnets being able to bend around the fields rather than being pushed back through the mount. So my version one (V1) stopped there and I went back to the drawing board.

Version 2 (V2).
I have called in a friend in another department, who owes me a favor, to grow me (using a 3D printer) a better mount and better shafts of my own design. The properties of the material are not suitable for a larger scale (too brittle), but should do nicely at this size. The shafts on V2 will be cross shaped bars, and will fit into (obviously) cross shaped slots on the mount. This will prevent both the rotation and the flexing problems that could occur with conventional shaped bars and rods. I have also designed the new shafts to be over twice the length to make best use of the shifting weight properties that Archer and others have described.

Also I will cut a new bit of hard board and plan to be able to adjust the distance between the interacting magnets as there are F?in strong!

I am hoping the new mount will be ready by Wednesday, and I can post an update on Saturday with a video and stills or what ever you request. Of course this is assuming it works and Archer is right. Don?t ever forget he?s a long way off being the first to claim to be able to achieve this. That said, it would only take one nut-job to be right though and EVERYTHING would change!

Future build plan.
Stage two: I salvaged a simple desk top fan from a skip at work and it works fine. If V2 works I will build a V3 that can hold more weight and fit onto the thread that would normally hold the fan blades into place. Next I will rewire the inside so that windings are fixed on the maximum setting, remover the giant Cap inside (it is a shunt motor for though that understand such things? I?m only a beginner) and see if Archers Gravity wheel toy as enough force to over come the friction of a simple motor and become a miniature gravity generator (the fan motor might just be enough to charge a mobile )

The final stage (Stage 3) would be to spend money (I think my wallet moths might turn to dust in the sunlight) and actually build the generator Archer is describing.

Hopefully that hasn?t sent you all to sleep and make sense.
Good luck and peace out,
K