Roll on the 20th June

[The Eskimo Quinn]

In point of fact, if any one of these electrical genius were correct they would be the ones who worked out the wheel machine, just as the physics professor of the world would have beaten me to the primary machine in pure physics, but in the real world, that is just not the case is it??

So after the 20th, you will be telling people what?? it's not your fault? the teachings were wrong??

I can live with that, because that is what ordinary people do, extraordinary people think outside the square, they create, they are the ones from who the world learns, not sheep repeating the words of others.

So yes, i do owe you an appology, for you are not extraordinary men.

[kude]

Does anyone know what will make this different than any other historical gravity wheel?

Can anyone summarize how imbalances create energy?

If the magnets are just batteries that store and use energy to lift the weights from 7 to 1, there is no new energy being created. What am I missing?

I have a very open mind, please don't shoot me! We don't have a final working prototype yet, so can someone hypothesize which key component is going to make this thing tick?

merci beaucoup!

To me, the electromagment or permanent magents are just one device (and incidental) to alter the orbit of the weight. If you recall the original coin on the wheel concept, a coin placed on the 1 o'clock causes the wheel to move. In the case of Mr. Quinn's device a weight is set to over balnce at the 1 o'clock position and gravity causes the movement of the wheel that in turn ultimately creates Energy. I would suppose that a purely mechanical way to do this exists, as maybe using a cam at 7 o'clock. Perhaps the wheel could be a composite flywheel with solenopids that pop a weight out at the 1 o'clock position, thus adding rotations to the stored energy of the flywheel. I am sure there are variations on the theme that can be explored. Picture a satellite orbiting the earth. The gravity field varies (relativity) so there are dips and high points affecting the orbit. Once something is in orbit (using a lot of Energy) it just takes a periodic nudge from a rocket motor to sustain the orbit. This is the concept to be explored. To me to make a pragmatic device after proof of concept would be to place a custom dc motor/generator at the axle of this device. I am sure Mr. Quinn has thought this all out and this concept is his to explain and demonstrate. For example, his use of an electro magnet at the 7 o'clock position is to have enough power to shift the rod, magnets and weights whereas a cam might not require any energy other than rotation  to do the same job, but do it poorly. Maybe there are certain mechanical advantages in his device that make its design advantageous. Let's not forget the simple water wheel. The weight of the water makes the wheel rotate. It's how you substitute weights for water and repositioning the weights over and over again that's the trick of Mr. Quinn's device.

Faraday found that moving a copper wire through a magnetic field gets electrons moving that creates Energy waves. A mechanical movement is turned into an Energy wave magically it appears. This device (Quinn's Device) tries to tap Gravity, fulcrums, and a falling object (the weight) to provide this initial and sustaining movement. (At one time NASA tried to trail a wire from a orbiting device to generate electricity from the magnetic field of the earth, but the wire kept breaking.) I beleive that Mr. Quinn's device takes it to a level such that the imbalance is structured so that it keeps the wheel rotating for a very long time and with enough power that friction and air resistance, etc. are minimalized. Also, if properly created, it should self start or start easily no matter of the original position. That's not not to say placing it in a vacuum chamber would hurt efficiency either.

At any rate, this is interesting to follow and see the prototypes being built. I just wanted to mention an observation: I could place my finger near the axle of my wheel and get it spinning fast quite easily with little effort as opposed to using the outer part of the wheel that required a lot of effort to get the same rotation. I suppose this is the torque versus horsepower thing, sort of the spinning ice skater, arms out slow spin, arms in fast spin. This device, on the other hand, is one arm in, one arm out, and I don't know what that spin looks like.

[Rusty_Springs]

Hi All
I just wanted to say there is an experiment that shows what happens when a magnet moves through copper, it goes like this do it and make your own conclutions about magnets cuzing drag when moving through copper near copper what ever, you get two tubes one copper the other plastic and you drop two same size and strength magnets through them and see which one hits the ground first, if there is no drag they will both hit at the same time.
Take Care All
Graham

[The Eskimo Quinn]

That effect is only cylindrical, the reason is the electricity travels around the outside of the wire, there is no electrical current in the centre of the wire  "Believe it or not"

it does slow down, for the same reasons, the cylinder is acting as a long coil and the field cannot bend outside the conatined loop, nothing more, it has ben tried with copper bars that form a clyindrical shape with slits to break the circle and does not work(slow the drop)

[The Eskimo Quinn]

Have uploaded the coil array demo to the wheel data page for download, will upload template shortly