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Overunity Machines Forum



Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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purepower

Wow, and you really dont understand that this is exactly what Archer is doing with his control rods? He is changing the mass distribution and balance of the lever. I am not applying the loads to my extension, they still stay located at the ends of the blue joints (5:1). The extension is there just as a balance. No difference from the control rods.

exxcomm0n

Quote from: purepower on June 06, 2008, 12:59:49 AM
Wow, and you really dont understand that this is exactly what Archer is doing with his control rods? He is changing the mass distribution and balance of the lever. I am not applying the loads to my extension, they still stay located at the ends of the blue joints (5:1). The extension is there just as a balance. No difference from the control rods.

If you want to emulate Archers fulcrum as I've seen it, hang the weight from a string at the :1 point instead of perching it out on the "control rods" please.

I saw his 20L hanging from a rope at the :1 point. We discussed slack and the "bouncing bottle" effect we both saw earlier.

I do like your toys. Pretty nifty!

Have a good night.
When I stop learning, plant me.

I'm already of less use than a tree.

libra_spirit

Thanks Archer for your efforts!

I am reminded of a road runner cartoon! LOL! Bravo.

Archer is showing us something blowing my mind about gravity wheels.

Here is my delemna:

If we have a perfectly balanced wheel setting vertical. Attach two exact same weights at 180 degrees on the wheels perimeter.

Now we set the wheel so one weight is at 1 oclock and the other is at 7 oclock. Why does the wheel turn?

The weights will both end up at 3 and 9 oclock after a rocking pattern slowly dimenishes, right?

Does gravity pull harder on the higher weight at 1 oclock, and not as hard on the lower weight? Thus gravity increases as we raise a weight higher? While a higher weight is said to have greater potiential energy, it has never been stated why the wheel would start to move if both have equal weight. Does weight not reduce with height away from the earth?

Next in the vedio he shows us that on a long lever, a set of weight ratios will balance with one higher, and yet if lifted slightly the lighter weight will now fall and raise the heavier weight one time a full meter before it springs back to a slightly lower level, much less then 1 meter difference on the light end! According to lever physics the lighter one cannot lift the heavier one at all on this lever set up.

This shows how momentum effects a balanced wheel, as momentum is all the same direction on a wheel, a circle, but gravity is pulling down on both sides. There is some kind of shifting of energy between momentum and gravity as we spin a wheel.

I am rather perplexed at the moment.

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If we take a wheel turning clockwise and cut it into 4 quadrants, the upper right quadrant will add spin to the system, the lower left will also add spin. The other two will work opposite. Yet a wheel will not spin itself up? The four quadrants cancel out. The more balanced weight we add to opposite sides, the more the wheel will try to balance these weights evenly side to side right? If we cut out the two quadrants of the wheel that are stopping it from spining, the two quadrants that are left will now spin to a balance at 3 and 9 oclock. A 45 degree turn.

The power in this model, by adding more balanced weight, is the stroke of off balance to balance generating momentum. The momentum will be highest velocity when the weights are at 3 and 9 oclock passing their balance point. And the momentum will be smallest when either weight approaches the top or bottom.

Does a stationary wheel with two off balanced weights already have momentum before we release it?
Is gravity really two forces, one up one down, both are not equal, and both do not interact with momentum the same? The force pushing up is weaker then the force pushing down so a rising weight has less momentum to overcome, and this is why a balance will find the 3 and 9 oclock positions?

Does this indicate that momentum is interlocked with gravity somehow?

Darn Ozzies, always comming up with this stuff to blow our minds. We need to get Archer and Joe Cell Joe together for a day!
I'd love to record it.

Dave L


purepower

In the pictures I have no "weights" attached. The wheel assembly at the end is to I can make it balance at any position like Archer does with the control rods.

Fred Flintstone

Archer, I gotta be honest here. Some mean people here made fun of my last post. They must have thought I was being funny - but I am dead serious. But I dont care - they are all stupid. Anyway, I went to your website and I followed exactly your instructions (just trying to understand you bud, my little brain can't follow this sutff)

Here is what you said ...

"Is this scientifically true, yes, This is seen where two equal weights are placed on a fulcrum or wheel (try it at home with your push bike upside down), the first one sitting at 7 o'clock and the second one placed on at one o'clock and let fall, not pushed!!!, the second weight will always go past the point of balance because of momentum, it will eventually rock until it balances, but it will never slowly fall until it becomes level. If there was only M G math it would fall until both balanced, but it has enough to lift the opposing weight past the centre of the wheel and balance point. Now surely the weight of gravity acting upon the 7 o'clock weight should have as much power as that on the right ? But it does not And momentum from fall has always been the true source of free energy."

Now, I followed this exactly. I turned my bicycle upside down I clamped a weight on the wheel at 1:00 and I held the freakn wheel and then I clamped a weight on 7:00 - but the darn thing sat still. WAZZUP with dat! I thought my chane must have felll off or bind it up or sumthin thin I remember I put the weights on the front wheel where nothing touches it. I am big time confused. What am I doing wrong. Please, must be sumthin I am doing wrong cause I followed your website EXACTLY and I am smarter than a monkey!  (I hope). Seriously, Archer correct me before these monkey Newton followers tell me I am stupid or something.  My new wheel I am building is gonna rock! (just need to get past the problem I can't figure out).

Sincerely,
Freddy