Roll on the 20th June

[sm0ky2]

@ dirt diggler

the springs won't change the "abilities" of the lever,. but they DO have some effect on it's operation. very similar to adding additional mass to one end. when the spring stretches out, there is additional force trying to return the lever to the "up" position, and bring the spring back to its relaxed state.


@ Libra

    There is not much difference between 2 weights on the end of a lever, and 2 weights 180-degrees apart on a wheel. Those people who observed the wheel NOT moving to the horizontal - had weights who's masses did not overcome the moment of inertia of the wheel. Had they used sufficient weights, the wheel would have performed exactly as the lever.

the "weight" of the object doesnt change, but the Force from gravity does - because the weight is not allowed to move straight down, it moves along the circumference of the rotating wheel.

I had something going on, using a pencil to demonstrate the direction of the Force. But as i tried to type it out for you, it sounded too confusing.   The gravitational vector is straight down. if the weight is not traveling straight down - then the Force is the sum or difference at that angle.  The gravitational potential in this case is STILL E=mgh, however the "h" is the +/- from the center of rotation, NOT the "ground".

You will find that the PE is exactly opposite for the 7:00 weight and the 1:00 weight.  One positive, and the other oppositely negative. this PE converts to kenetic energy, turning the wheel/lever -  and both weights balance out having PE = 0

[Rusty_Springs]

Hi All
My math was just pointing out the 20 to 1 is not real when you take the beam into acount all the 20ks is doing is evening everything out so anything put on the other end will unbalance the lever and it will move lifting the small end  the 20 to 1 is an illusion.
Take Care all
Graham

[sm0ky2]

Hi All
My math was just pointing out the 20 to 1 is not real when you take the beam into acount all the 20ks is doing is evening everything out so anything put on the other end will unbalance the lever and it will move lifting the small end  the 20 to 1 is an illusion.
Take Care all
Graham

That's absolutely corect. The added weights do not accurately reflect the "work" function of the fulcrum, since both ends of the lever are not of equal mass.  All those "unknowns" i was mentioning earlier.... You can't make an accurate measurement by just weighting the additional masses. (unless you first balance the beam as someone stated above).

[yoyo]

sometimes what I say goes over the Archurians' heads.

golly - u r sure a smarty-pants

But now that I have provided video proof, the one piece of evidence everyone has been wanting from the start, there is no rebuttal!

yes - weve been waiting for you glory to show us the proof - waiting and wanting from the start - gagg cough

Instead, a diversion tactic by changing the argument to batteries. Take that discussion somewhere else please.

who dies and makes u god and say what we talk about

My advice and expertise are here for you to use

u r so expert thank you thank you for the offer

or any question to ask, please feel free

yes - does your shit stink?  i smells it from here!

[Evg]

Do we have to pick on Purepower, like others pick on Archer?
Just a thank you for your info to both parties would be nice