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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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gwhy!

Quote from: Rusty_Springs on June 25, 2008, 05:12:06 PM
Hi Sm0ky2
I was thinking the same thing. I thought maybe he has his setup going slightly up hill which would give you the attract back after leaving, this is because it kicks out the it doesn't have enough energy to go up the hill so it rolls back untill it stops just at the gate were the repel holds it up.
Yes the Trigate needs something to stop the slight repel comming in but there is no douting its kick going out is enough to break any attract back if on a level or slightly down hill surface.
Take Care Sm0ky2
Graham

Hi Graham,
  Agreed, the kick out is enough to get past the attraction, but the attraction is there.

edit: just read your other post.
    the setup was modified to do away with the cart the roller mag was placed on the end of a pendulum that was running on a bearing and very free moving

Rusty_Springs

Quote from: gwhy! on June 25, 2008, 07:34:49 PM
Hi Graham,
  Agreed, the kick out is enough to get past the attraction, but the attraction is there.

edit: just read your other post.
    the setup was modified to do away with the cart the roller mag was placed on the end of a pendulum that was running on a bearing and very free moving
Hi Gwhy
Yes your right there is attract back and repel in, the design is to break the attract back and with the shield stop the repel in, sm0ky2 is right there is no attract comming out the attract back comes from what I call the corner effect this is where at the corner of the magnetic flux as it moves around everything is opposite so and attracting magnet at this point will repel and a repelling magnet at this point will attract, I showed this with an experiment I did that I called floating magnet, I had one magnet on the desk and one on a piece of wood so its above the one one the desk.
I then had them so they were both attracted to each other and moved them towards each other, if I was to close they would attract to each other but if I was right on the corner the one on the wood would just sit there floating and not attracting in.
There you see the repel at the corner of two attracting magnet holding them apart, I will see if I can find the video to this and show you.
Take Care Gwhy
Graham

PS can't find that video so it must be on my other computer and it will be a while before I get to that computer again so I will have to forget about showing that video.

Rusty_Springs

Hi All
I just made a small 1/2meg video to show the corner effect, does anyone have somewere I can put this video for people to look at?
It shows two attracting magnets one floating the other on the desk, then I move the one on the desk towards the one floating and they attract to each other.
What it shows is what happens when two attracting magnets come towards each other, were the magnet is flaoting is the repel away before the attract in and if you had a box around the magnets as the flux you will see this repel is where the corners meet thats why I call it the corner effect.
If you see the video forget I forgot to do a button up in my shirt hahahaha.
Take Care All
Graham

PS: This effect is the same with two repelling magnets except it attracts before it repels

exxcomm0n

Quote from: Rusty_Springs on June 25, 2008, 09:27:41 PM
Hi All
I just made a small 1/2meg video to show the corner effect, does anyone have somewere I can put this video for people to look at?
It shows two attracting magnets one floating the other on the desk, then I move the one on the desk towards the one floating and they attract to each other.
What it shows is what happens when two attracting magnets come towards each other, were the magnet is flaoting is the repel away before the attract in and if you had a box around the magnets as the flux you will see this repel is where the corners meet thats why I call it the corner effect.
If you see the video forget I forgot to do a button up in my shirt hahahaha.
Take Care All
Graham

PS: This effect is the same with two repelling magnets except it attracts before it repels

Hey Rusty/Graham,

I can host it. It's not a commercial account or anything, but I can host it for viewing purposes.
PM me and we can get it done.

1/2 Mb is tiny-ish

Take care Rusty/Graham
When I stop learning, plant me.

I'm already of less use than a tree.

Rusty_Springs

Quote from: exxcomm0n on June 25, 2008, 09:36:26 PM
Hey Rusty/Graham,

I can host it. It's not a commercial account or anything, but I can host it for viewing purposes.
PM me and we can get it done.

1/2 Mb is tiny-ish

Take care Rusty/Graham

Hi Exx
I'll email it to you.
Take CAre Exx
Graham