Roll on the 20th June

[purepower]

to newt go down to  a wrecking yard and watch a whole car shoot up to a single field, that should amaze you for hours.

to purepower your are still not reading, i thought you were smarter, i said length of the diamter on the lift side high, that is not the same as they are both traveling the "same distance"

i will spell it out in two year old

get a piece of sting from 6 oclock to 12 oclock now straighten it out, now make a vertical climb that height. so they are the same distance, now tell me it takes the same energy. I explained quite clearly that i was not talking about the height of the wheel, but the height equal to the length of the diamter of the lift side, everyone can go back and read it several times.

if it can climb that distance it will turn a a cricle with a diamter of the length.

you choose not to read it because it crushes newtonian physics.

On that before i go to work.

can anyone with any balls and honest bone in their body, say that the climb with no energy in, did not produce a movement and energy out??

i dont fucking think so, so spare me the newtonian bullshit of trying to mislead people by not following what i wrote, based on a false conservation law of newton's that you cant get work for free,

for the others playing at home with this, if there is a weaking set of magnets at the top it will fall, like it or not that would complete a loop the moment it touched the magnet at the base again. remember the vids? it will roll across level first, so that would make it past start point. and the newtonian god dead. i am sure there are dozens of people making these as we speak because they require no building skills.

Archer, you are not reading.

I said total path is greater on the circle. You said total path is greater on the circle.

You said the wheel is climbing a height equal to half the circumfrence of the circle. I said bullshit.

Pick a point on the bottom of the wheel. Rotate it 180degrees. Now, it traveled a total of the string length (like you said) but it traveled a vertical distance equal to the diameter. The difference in the two lengths does not change the energy because the vertical component remains the same?

Dirt gets it. Why haven't you figured it out yet?

Total path is irrelevant, which is what you are looking at. Path in the direction of a force is all that matters. Gravity is vertical, so the only distance that matters is height, not circumference.

A two year old could understand this, I can't make it any easier.

You choose not to read it because it crushes archurian physics.

And your energy in is the magnetic potential. No one is amazed that dropping a weight gives a body kenetic energy...

-PurePower

[exxcomm0n]

Archer, you are not reading.

I said total path is greater on the circle. You said total path is greater on the circle.

You said the wheel is climbing a height equal to half the circumfrence of the circle. I said bullshit.

Pick a point on the bottom of the wheel. Rotate it 180degrees. Now, it traveled a total of the string length (like you said) but it traveled a vertical distance equal to the diameter. The difference in the two lengths does not change the energy because the vertical component remains the same?

@ Pure

Again, the wheel is a special type of balanced lever.

Horizontal force never has as much entropy as vertical force does, and any arc is (if infinitesimally, and at an ever increasing "grade" until 1/2 travel distance is reached) traveling horizontally (with that increasing/decreasing angle) for 1/2 its total distance.

A straight shot up has no fulcrum to leverage.

See where I'm coming from?

Dirt gets it. Why haven't you figured it out yet?

Total path is irrelevant, which is what you are looking at. Path in the direction of a force is all that matters. Gravity is vertical, so the only distance that matters is height, not circumference.

A two year old could understand this, I can't make it any easier.

You choose not to read it because it crushes archurian physics.

And your energy in is the magnetic potential. No one is amazed that dropping a weight gives a body kenetic energy...

-PurePower

But sometimes they are if they happen to be standing on the other end of a lever it's dropped on.

[Fred Flintstone]

@ Archer. I am going to finish my wheel. I have the wheel mounted on an axel. Basically, just a 3 ft diameter circular piece of board. So, what you are saying is that we need to suround the entire wheel with cyclinder shaped magnets...right?  Maybe about 3" long. I found these here http://www.magnet4less.com/product_info.php?cPath=1_11&products_id=444- they look pretty strong (lift 99 lbs). Once I measure the perimeter of the wheel, I will need to know the distance between each magnet so I will know how many to order. And how far should they be mounted from the edge of the wheel?

Also, what about the 2 balls mounted on a narrower cyclinder magnet?  I know the width from the outside of the balls needs to be narrower than the width of the magnets on the outside of the wheel. But do I need 8 sets configured on the wheel itself? Basically, it looks like now this is more of a magnet motor, which is fine by me. I know that others are saying that you are changing the design, but who cares? If you are working on your design (that will work) and you find an even better solution, why not "upgrade". Some of these guys are idiots.

Maybe the wheel can lay flat instead of upright. Then there is no hill to climb? What do you think? I guess what I am asking (so I dont waste all my money on magnets) - what should I order? 

By the way...I'm am so entertained and glad you took the time to shoot all of the videos. That is a lot of work and time consuming. I think you do your best work when you are defending yourself! 

KEEP GOING ARCHER - YOU CAN DO IT!!!! FINISH THE WHEEL AND PROVE THEM ALL WRONG.

(but help me out a little with my questions above)

One more thing....Do you think you can get this new design done by July 20th?  If so, let's start a new count down so we can all have something to look forward too!  And PurePower and Newtonian God can keep arguing with you each day and it will be so much fun reading and watching you prove them wrong with your videos. How bout it...July 20th ?  Can you do it?  If so, I suggest you put it on the front page of you website. Go ahead and admit the truth that the June 20th deadline was just too short and you ran out of funds. Also, many of us beleive that you had it running but you broke it while trying to make it run better for the video. So really, you made the deadline but we just didnt get to see it. Now on this new deadline (if you choose to accept it), those of us who believe you will stand proud when you release the engine to the world!

Regards to all,
Freddy

[Fred Flintstone]

Hey guys...if you want.. .take my poll..

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5114.0.html

[The Eskimo Quinn]

just on a break, couldnt help dragging the newyonians through the mud one last time, I already had a vid of it starting at vertical from 9 oclock and going up and over the top  sucked in.

will load it tonight after work, so much for M an G x your mothers undies and all the bullshit in the world that comes from their mouths. "

"no device in the world can go over the top of the circle without a momentum start."
":deny that as absolute fact"
what was equal to what again?? even if we were talking about  a height equal to the wheel requiring at least the same energy, clearly this has more. end of story end of game.

shut up and show me the bullshit math for this fucker tonight.

better get back to work