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Roll on the 20th June

Started by CLaNZeR, April 21, 2008, 11:41:56 AM

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sm0ky2

Quote from: The Eskimo Quinn on July 20, 2010, 08:51:34 PM
ok watched the video, now go and watch it yourself, see the part when the rod shoots across but the wheel doesn't keep rotating and the rod falls back, this is most of your problem is that you have calculated the magnetic component and forgot to calculate standard leverage, when the rod shoots across it is not heavy enough to fall each time, eg the distance is too long for the end weight, so you need to add weight near the end of the rod before the magnet. Now it may seem that there will be equal additional weight on both ends, but not when displaced as the lower rod end will have moved inward to the centre, still creating a greater weight difference than exists currently, the greater the weight offset the faster it will fall and create momentum. very impressed so far.

yes. i remember that lesson from your teachings. The reason i haven't gone down that road with this (yet) is because i had it working before, with the current flux/mass ratio. and i didnt want to screw with it too much, before i got it going again.

That may have to be the answer in dealing with the extra friction i inadvertently caused....
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

infringer

The only problem I see with that archer is you will have had to have added the same amount of weight to both ends... But it may work I just believe that maybe if you forced the rod to get pushed out even further to a certain point gravity would take over.

The reason why it may work is obvious look at excommon his test with the lever if you add the same weight and extend it out it does just as archer says it takes less weight to make the lever lift so you would have to find the sweet spot so to speak...

Archer you been doing any work on your wheel as of late?
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sm0ky2

thinking about this,....

if i increase the mass too much, i also have to increase the strength of the magnetic field...

so i may be able to do both in a single, simple motion.
by just adding an extra magnet to the ends of each rod.....
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

The Eskimo Quinn

yes you are indeed correct that it doe not create additional leverage against itself (the rod), however it does increase the leverage against the balance of the wheel that has not increased in weight such as the tubes/arms etc, for example strapping a 1 kilo weight to the side of a mini cooper wheel will make it fall at a much faster rate than strapped to a large four wheel drive wheel, the lverage gain is against the mass of wheel itself not the opposing end of the rod which as you say is also additionaly weighted.  as to concerns as to how it will effect the magnetic fields and that ratio, the clack sound when the rods raises tells me the truth, and that is the power is over the required amount and it topping out, so it can still lift a heavier weight. this sound must be avoided as much as possible for it causes the entire wheel to shunt in the direction of the top out, creating loss of energy.

As to my own build, it is still on hold, however am currently top 3 listed for a well paid poistion in environmental and electrical engineering, which should see me back up in production within 6 months all going well.
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The Eskimo Quinn

Quote from: sm0ky2 on July 20, 2010, 10:16:46 PM
thinking about this,....

if i increase the mass too much, i also have to increase the strength of the magnetic field...

so i may be able to do both in a single, simple motion.
by just adding an extra magnet to the ends of each rod.....

as i said the fact that it is topping out with an audible sound shows excess power, though you are correct that adding magnets does offer and easy solution, however the distance from the arc will need to increase to match the increase in the power of the wall if you add magnets.
My PROOF THAT DEMOCRACY IS DEAD AND THAT WE MUST ATTACK AND KILL THE NAZIS IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU, THE U.S, aUSTRALIAN AND BRITSIH GOVERNMENTS ARE THE OPPOSITION PARTIES TO THE ORIGINAL INVADING GOVERNMENTS, DEMOCRACY DIDN'T WORK, BOTH MAINSTREAM PARTIES ARE NAZIS, DEATH TO THE NAZIS, DEATH TO ALL SYMPATHIZERS AND SUPPORTERS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39c-kpgDY58&feature=related