Roll on the 20th June

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@ onesnzeros

Maybe he is joking, and the joke therefore, is on me.

I'm not particularly that generous. I just learned long ago that I'm smart enough to know how ignorant I am.

(That came from a particularly good acid trip I had w/ a buddy.)

The worst of it is most of my critical observation skills came from watching political policy and trying to see if what I was told was happening was actually happening. Using that reference model can make you not believe what you're told.

That observation method is kind of "infant mortality rate" of political agendas, so please bear w/ me as I've found things to be more true when my hands do them versus watching someone elses hands do them.

I like a magic show as much as the next guy, but people hate going to one with me because I don't have a very good suspension of disbelief.

[The Eskimo Quinn]

 Batter up,

Let?s knock some of this bullshit out of the park.,

Firstly let me make it quite clear that many of the remarks made against myself, others and the concept of overunity ?are not? made out of spite, they truly believe what they are saying because that is what they are taught.

@legendre

Careful, now.. magnets and masses are sources of magnetic and gravitational fields, respectively. It's only when these fields interact with a second object that a force is produced.

Otherwise, I have little to disagree with!

-L

Wow, how insightful if a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound if no one hears it science. Yep I?ll buy that for a dollar (well we must have charity) only problem is that equates to Acid does not actually burn unless in contact with something it can burn, it also equates to ?is the top of the planet actually magnetic or does it only switch on when you pull your compass out of your pocket?? BOING

In concept, absolutely. But the the real real world, it would be difficult if not impossible to find a field, magnetic or gravitational, that is not producing some force with respect to another object. That said, these forces may be so infinitesimally weak as to make detection a daunting task indeed.

Yes I feel infinitesimally weak all the time being held upside fucking down in Australia all the time, lucky I don?t weigh much I might fall off, (find that usefull jumping off buildings instead of using the elevator knowing how infinitesimally weak gravity is.

I think we can dismiss any remarks made by this person ever

@ onenzeros

nicely put now we're cooking with gas.....

what the fuck is that?? Your version of Dduuuhhh yeah you tell em rocky you tell emmmm.

@mrgrynch

If you place a simple bar magnet on a CRT display with either the N or S pole touching the glass, you will see a pattern form.. now twist the magnet without lifting it from the screen.. does the pattern change?   No, because the field is not tied to the magnet, it is the deformation (polarization) of the surrounding vacuum

True buuut if you take your same magnet and place it on your on old style television screen and repeat the exercise it does leave a pattern, the best view of the polarization trick, and it is a trick, they just don?t realize it, I can perform the same trick with ball bearings and a sheet of glass, many particles can revolve around themselves and indeed work as basics molecular cohesive teams all the time, electrons around the atom. Take a sheet of glass and a handful of ball bearings and repeat the exercise again with the pole of a magnet over a sheet of glass, pick up the ball bearings, now twist the magnet, the don?t move!!!

Yeah I know, fucking annoying isn?t it, when some prick has an answer for everything. Your trick is no more proof of field than mine. What you are demonstrating is still only theory, because it can be disproved like this in many ways. BOING


Below - This is my favorite and absolute proof of why these guys believe what they believe and admit they don?t know at the same time. For those that don?t know what he has quoted ?is? verbatim science teachings.

@legendre
This is why Finite Element Analysis (FEA) exists.. Reduce a sea of infinite points to a real and manageable number of nodes.

Science as taught in school, reduce an infinite number?? Why say infinite if you don?t believe in infinite?? To a manageable number and that?s the point, when it?s all too much, let?s cut out what we don?t understand and that will be the real world. Just because Newton and current science can?t deal with anything outside of a scaled down shortcut version of what is actually happening, the world would have been doomed to live inside it?s manageable bubble forever, well except that a condescending prick like me was born.


@ glasglue
Seriously, forget magnets, he doesn't understand how a simple lever works.

The Archimedes fulcrum that lifted the ships, Archimedes said ?it started low to the ground? yet in all these centuries, Mr. Newton and your science never worked out that simple lever. You would be surprised what I know.

[onesnzeros]

Batter up,

Let?s knock some of this bullshit out of the park.,

Firstly let me make it quite clear that many of the remarks made against myself, others and the concept of overunity ?are not? made out of spite, they truly believe what they are saying because that is what they are taught.

What did life teach you?

@legendre

Careful, now.. magnets and masses are sources of magnetic and gravitational fields, respectively. It's only when these fields interact with a second object that a force is produced.

Otherwise, I have little to disagree with!

-L

Wow, how insightful if a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound if no one hears it science. Yep I?ll buy that for a dollar (well we must have charity) only problem is that equates to Acid does not actually burn unless in contact with something it can burn, it also equates to ?is the top of the planet actually magnetic or does it only switch on when you pull your compass out of your pocket?? BOING

In concept, absolutely. But the the real real world, it would be difficult if not impossible to find a field, magnetic or gravitational, that is not producing some force with respect to another object. That said, these forces may be so infinitesimally weak as to make detection a daunting task indeed.

Yes I feel infinitesimally weak all the time being held upside fucking down in Australia all the time, lucky I don?t weigh much I might fall off, (find that usefull jumping off buildings instead of using the elevator knowing how infinitesimally weak gravity is.

I think we can dismiss any remarks made by this person ever

True scientific discourse, i'm getting shivers up my spine.

@ onenzeros

nicely put now we're cooking with gas.....

what the fuck is that?? Your version of Dduuuhhh yeah you tell em rocky you tell emmmm.

ok you got me on that one

@mrgrynch

If you place a simple bar magnet on a CRT display with either the N or S pole touching the glass, you will see a pattern form.. now twist the magnet without lifting it from the screen.. does the pattern change?   No, because the field is not tied to the magnet, it is the deformation (polarization) of the surrounding vacuum

True buuut if you take your same magnet and place it on your on old style television screen and repeat the exercise it does leave a pattern, the best view of the polarization trick, and it is a trick, they just don?t realize it, I can perform the same trick with ball bearings and a sheet of glass, many particles can revolve around themselves and indeed work as basics molecular cohesive teams all the time, electrons around the atom. Take a sheet of glass and a handful of ball bearings and repeat the exercise again with the pole of a magnet over a sheet of glass, pick up the ball bearings, now twist the magnet, the don?t move!!!

Yeah I know, fucking annoying isn?t it, when some prick has an answer for everything. Your trick is no more proof of field than mine. What you are demonstrating is still only theory, because it can be disproved like this in many ways. BOING


Below - This is my favorite and absolute proof of why these guys believe what they believe and admit they don?t know at the same time. For those that don?t know what he has quoted ?is? verbatim science teachings.

@legendre
This is why Finite Element Analysis (FEA) exists.. Reduce a sea of infinite points to a real and manageable number of nodes.

Science as taught in school, reduce an infinite number?? Why say infinite if you don?t believe in infinite?? To a manageable number and that?s the point, when it?s all too much, let?s cut out what we don?t understand and that will be the real world. Just because Newton and current science can?t deal with anything outside of a scaled down shortcut version of what is actually happening, the world would have been doomed to live inside it?s manageable bubble forever, well except that a condescending prick like me was born.

@ glasglue
Seriously, forget magnets, he doesn't understand how a simple lever works.

The Archimedes fulcrum that lifted the ships, Archimedes said ?it started low to the ground? yet in all these centuries, Mr. Newton and your science never worked out that simple lever. You would be surprised what I know.

Yes but Archimedes didn't invent flubber. And I am surprised what you know actually.

1n0s

[bradpitt]

@ bradpitt

Hmmmm.....you found that a lever can do the same work w/ less effort.

You win the Archimedes challenge!

That means you had an idea, you liked what it did, you mocked up a crude representation to show your thought and prove the concept.

This is about 200% times what it takes for a newbie to come in and spout that it won't work and that the effect is nothing.

Talk is cheap. Learning is expensive.
Learning with your own hands and eyes is priceless!

Keep picking at it, or shelve it until a later date, BUT NEVER just let someone tell you "that'll never work", because if you listen to them it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

Oh.......BTW. Welcome to the mental gymnasium!


Thank you..I am trying here... I don't know  if you have reead my comments on youtube but I am just trying to understand this thing??  To me the I think this is the answer and I will SHOW EVERYONE!!! LOL
Just trying to learn and beg someone to make a computer model for me???!!! 
PLEASE!!!!

[The Eskimo Quinn]

what this guy is seeing is an exmple of extended use of leverage, the fact he has an object now doing work it could not do with the same pressure one on one is an example of what a lever can do, if only someone could work out how to seperate the energy from that lever he would have a pedulum. Don't worry mate, there are things in the works that will help you beyond you imagination for exectly that purpose.

I think there may even be a few people who know exactly what i am talking about For the few who do, you now see how many applications the lever can extend to in mechanics.