FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS

[GetReal]

Hi Everyone,

In regards to the work produced by a metal object approaching a magnet to that required
to move it away, if the amount work is the same then how is it possible that the SMOT is an overunity device.

[GetReal]

Hi EDDY,

            Your idea sounds alot like something I read about a man called Johann Grander,
who built a magnetic generator using the same principle. It supposedly produced free energy.
There are websites about him and his experimentation.

Kind regards
GetReal

[GetReal]

Hi Nightlife,

                Thanks for the wellcome.

Some people claim that the SMOT device is overunity. This device uses the principle of attraction of a steel ball up a ramp to a magnet.
I can't see how an overunity motor or generator could result from the use of magnets if the amount of work is the same. So how is the SMOT device producing extra energy?

[nightlife]

Hi GetReal, I have not personally seen a smot design that even comes close to what most call over unity. Over unity is producing more work then the initial work provided. Most smot's are seen having a metal ball go up a track and just because the ball starts from no speed and then moves at a accelerated rate, they assume over unity. The truth is that the ball must be placed at the start which requires work and then it has to be picked up at the end and returned to the start which again requires works and based on the amount of work that is provided, the work produced can't even come close to the work provided. Therefore, over unity is not achieved.

Another thing we must understand when claiming over unity is that we must first prove what energy is used and what energy is produced and due to the fact that we don?t even know what energy really even is, it would be impossible to claim true over unity.

We have to answer this next questions first:

What is energy?

Not just what it does and or ways we can produce it but the true definition. Some say it is a frequency, some say it is a movement of electrons and some say magnetic fields. My theory is that it is nothing more then vibrations. No one can be wrong at this point do to it not ever being proven one or another. I could go on for days as I have on other threads but I will leave you with that. Food for thought LOL.

Tom

[nightlife]

Xaverius, you are right about most of us being busy with other things and I guess my given excuse was not valid and it helped me get back in to things.

I was working on a magnet motor that requires no outside power source to run and produce excess power. I got stumped and that is why I jumped off and devoted all my attention on other projects. After reading your reply it made me think as well as it made me feel guilty and so I went down to my dungeon and went back thru my notes to see where I made a mistake. My notes were not wrong but I found them to be missing a couple important things. I also found that my proto type had some magnets placed wrong. I must have been tired or just brain dead when I built it. I learned a few things and that made it all worth while. I have some more experimenting to do before I can relay my new found thoughts.

As for your pulse motor, I have posted a few different design concepts as well as a couple of others have. I have not built one yet to say which is best but I feel most of them can and or should work. You were asking about parts and I would have to know what you have in mind for a design first as well as how sophisticated you want your motor to be. If simple, I would suggest the Bedini School Girl parts and adding the utilization of both poles as well as utilizing the increased energy of the gap between two opposite polarities.

Good luck and I will keep you posted on my findings as I hope you do the same with yours.

Tom