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FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS

Started by nightlife, May 13, 2008, 11:27:44 AM

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gyulasun

Hi Peter,

Well,  germanium diodes have got the smallest forward voltage drop (0.1-0.3V)  but they are very rare and expensive nowadays if medium or higher power versions are needed. (see some info here on small power types: http://www.banzaieffects.com/Germanium-c-364.html )

You could use Schottky type diodes instead, their forward voltage drop is around 0.3-0.4V for the low barrier types, see some info on them here: http://www.banzaieffects.com/Schottky-c-367.html  and type 1N5817 (max 1A) or BAT48 (max 350mA) would be a good start instead of  any Silicon type you may have got now with their 0.6-0.7V and higher forward voltage drops.

Let's try discussing the Lenz effect. When your air core coil approaches the magnet (and you have a load on the coil through a diode of conducting polarity to the induced voltage/current) it is sure Lenz law will work against this approaching movement. If your diode's polarity were just the opposite, then no current could flow, hence no Lenz.

But your iron piece also get magnetized when it approaches (together with the coil) towards the magnet and it makes an opposing (but maybe weaker than the magnet) pole, a South pole (if we consider your drawing) at the other end of the coil too. So this opposing pole I think works also FOR  Lenz in this approaching phase, don't you think?  Maybe I am wrong here, please explain.

When the magnet and the pole piece moves further and starts leaving the center line of the coil, normally the current changes direction if your load is still present through the diode but now the diode closes down any current due to getting reverse biased.

If you were connecting the diode in reverse direction in the approaching phase, then no current could flow till reaching the center line, hence no Lenz on approach,  then on leaving the center line the diode would open and let the current flow in the load, hence Lenz effect would manifest.  Agree with this?  Maybe I am wrong.

Cheers,  Gyula


petersone

Hi  Gyula
I'm working on the assumption that,as the north pole of the mag. approaches the coil it will induce a north pole,hence lenz,at the other end of the coil will be a south pole,which will induce a north pole in the iron.
Maybe my assumption is wrong?I'm hoping you can tell me.
happy hunting.
peter.

gyulasun

Hi Peter,

The question is which of the two fluxes is stronger:  the other end of the coil (South) or the iron's flux ( made also South by the permanent magnet) ?  If the iron gets very weakly magnetized from the perm. magnet (because of the distance and / or the given strength of the perm. magnet) and the coil's south pole is stronger there, then the iron will be (at least weakly or a bit stronger) polarized a north pole.

So in case the perm. magnet induced south pole due to Lenz is strong enough at the other coil end, then the iron will work against Lenz in this approaching phase because the coil end is able to attract to the iron.

Maybe you could help to totally defeat the effect of the perm. magnet on the iron piece by placing a small perm magnet of the correct pole behind and to the outside of the iron piece  ;) ?   Or what if you leave out the iron piece and make do with another perm. magnet of the correct pole instead ?

So you are right!  Thanks,

Gyula

petersone

Hi Gyula
I don't known if I am right or not,I will simply try it.
I always try to work out why it won't work and not bother why it will.
The reason I feel it won't work is have the same poles approaching the coil at the same time,one perm.and one induced.
I'm winding another coil with thinner wire and a "box" section as I believe that is the best,hope to get a higher voltageto better swich the diode.of course the odds are well against me,nobody has betten lenz yet,as far as I know.
Thanks for your help.
happy hunting.
peter

DrStiffler

@gotoluc
I don't know what an IronHead cell is, but maybe you could answer a couple of questions about it?

1) Is it capable of being sealed so you can measure gas/time?

2) Are you interested enough in what the SEC Exciter is doing, to do a comparison with straight DC against the SEC (subjective only)?

Of course I am set up to measure gas volume, but do not have a cell (IronHead) type so what I am doing may or may not be as good as or better than what you have found. Maybe some simple marks on the side and guess at how many mL/time and we can factor in 20% loss for evaporation. You did say once it did not get hot, then you said it did?

That in itself would be worth looking at, how much water is in the tank and how much does the temp rise in Xtime, again assume a 20% bleed to environment. That could be compared to input power and at least show what is coming off in heat?

Thanks...

Sorry I will not be commenting on your thread on the negative electricity project, just starting out you have a group of the typical talking heads and I do not want to evoke the games. We could talk by direct email to my drs address.

Good work...

All things are possible but some are impractical.