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Overunity Machines Forum



Bessler Wheel Theory by Alex

Started by Alexioco, May 14, 2008, 10:31:22 AM

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Alexioco

The footage is done, you might not be able to hear me all of the time, when you have seen the footage, I will answer requests if you have any...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzpGXN7lWcA
The love of God is great and true,
A special thing for Him and you,
A perfect friend, a Father too,
Lift up your hearts for He is true.

Alexioco

Ok I want to announce to you all that my wheel sadly does not work, here are the reasons why...

When the weights drop, they lift the other weights up which is supposed to cause rotation, but because the weights drop, it results in two extra weights collecting on the ascending side meaning that one cannot trade width for height...

Also a weight must travel straight from the axle to the rim of the wheel, a weight that travels half way up from the axle is not enough to sustain motion, a weight must travel the full distance in order to move the wheel enough for the next movement to happen...

In other words, the weights in my wheel do not move out and in far enough to sustain motion...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POaRvxsI25A
The love of God is great and true,
A special thing for Him and you,
A perfect friend, a Father too,
Lift up your hearts for He is true.

rlortie

Kudos Alex,

You may have got a little presumptuous with your original concept of  merging two or more MT designs. But like a man of integrity you followed through and lived up to the end result. Only in my opinion it is not the end results, unless you deem it as such!

Note; I do not specify the actual MT drawings by number, that is because your original private post contains reference to a drawing not mentioned on this thread. I told you that there was something wrong and you posted that I was right and was the only one to notice. You did not pick up on that which I was pointing out, and in my opinion your original concept is a long way from being dead! 

Alex you are I believe a young man easily influenced.  I have stayed out of the picture as you wanted to proceed on your own.  I hold you in great respect for your innovation and your tenacity to build with limited resources.  It is not many of us who would use cardboard and the backs of two chairs for an axle support.

Your concept, IMO still shows viable reasoning for farther research. By your choice I am not at liberty to divulge the discussion here.  I give you an "A" for innovation, an "E" for effort and a "C" for letting yourself fall into "tunnel vision"...

Ralph 

Alexioco

Quote from: rlortie on June 03, 2008, 08:37:39 PM
Kudos Alex,

You may have got a little presumptuous with your original concept of  merging two or more MT designs. But like a man of integrity you followed through and lived up to the end result. Only in my opinion it is not the end results, unless you deem it as such!

Note; I do not specify the actual MT drawings by number, that is because your original private post contains reference to a drawing not mentioned on this thread. I told you that there was something wrong and you posted that I was right and was the only one to notice. You did not pick up on that which I was pointing out, and in my opinion your original concept is a long way from being dead! 

Alex you are I believe a young man easily influenced.  I have stayed out of the picture as you wanted to proceed on your own.  I hold you in great respect for your innovation and your tenacity to build with limited resources.  It is not many of us who would use cardboard and the backs of two chairs for an axle support.

Your concept, IMO still shows viable reasoning for farther research. By your choice I am not at liberty to divulge the discussion here.  I give you an "A" for innovation, an "E" for effort and a "C" for letting yourself fall into "tunnel vision"...

Ralph 

Lol I don't think its a different wheel Ralph? Also my wheel can be changed so it can have a better chance, MT 27 NEEDS to be added, I knew from the beginning that MT 27 was important but was unsure how to do it and thought my wheel already worked...

I will talk to you by email and me and you can work this wheel out because over the last few days I have made some very interesting discoveries about combinding those MTs...

Thanks for the A  ;D
The love of God is great and true,
A special thing for Him and you,
A perfect friend, a Father too,
Lift up your hearts for He is true.

Dgraphic911

"In other words, the weights in my wheel do not move out and in far enough to sustain motion..."
alex

HMMM, i'll give you an A for building a wheel and trying to stay on task. But unfortunately F's all around for the rest of your behaviour. (i get lots of F's to so don't worry)

You were doing so well in the begining with myself and alen and working through thought process's on your own with new eyes which is great. But when you decided you alomost had it and began this campaign of disjointed threads shifting your ides every other day i became very much disinterested. And then the i know something but i'll show you later. C'mon i do that so it drove me crazy.

But Now that you see what happened, hopefully you will change your stategy on how you announce sucess's. Because you are one of the very few who are actually building and learning from models you still have a very good chance of learning and bringing yourself closer to a wheel that spontaneousl begins to rotate. Youv'e seen what doesn't feel right.

You can reread my MT's thoughts page, it will tell you EXACTLY why.
"In other words, the weights in my wheel do not move out and in far enough to sustain motion..."

I am not a wheel expert, but the Mt's were designed to teach, I know your discussing them with other people, and i don't want to get involved with that, I have my opinions which is why i kept them separate in my own thread. But its not about combining the Mt's but learning form them each one will teach you a valuable lesson in the forces that will need to act together in the final working wheel. Its then up to you to be able to put all the pieces together (not literally). I repeat NOT Literally.