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Overunity Machines Forum



Bessler Wheel Theory by Alex

Started by Alexioco, May 14, 2008, 10:31:22 AM

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Teutates

Noob here.. probably off topic but thought I might make a few comments...  I've read alot of imformation on Besslers wheels including eyewitness statments from individuals who actually saw the device... (and please correct me if I get some of the facts wrong (and spelling as well   :))  but what I understand about his wheels is as follows (the first wheel which was unidirectional)...

-Size (first wheel)  diameter ~4'  width ~9"
-Weights - cylinder shaped... about 4 pounds.. Bessler allowed people to hold them.... but wouldn't let them touch the ends (Critical to the design?  Tapered? Hooks? Hollow?)
-The device would take 4 to 5 rotations to get upto running speed of 52 revolutions per min from a dead stop...  can a rate of accelleration be calculated from this?
-The sides were covered with cheese cloth to prevent someone looking at the internal workings at one point... and wood at others - this suggests the system would work in a non closed fashion so do the weights have some track system to run on?
-Noise - many individuals noted 8 distinct "impacts of the weights hitting the frame".... and were very specific about that number...  Why were they sure that the eights impacts were different?  shouldn't they have all sounded the same?  I'm sure other situations could exist where they could differentiate the eight distinct sounds... but could it imply that those eight impacts occurred rapidly ... then a pause then eight more?   
-The later versions (which frankly I'd rather have the first one... more power  ;D ) were bi-directional....  which stands to reason that one side of the wheel was a mirror image of the other..
- The motor could lift a 40# crate using pulleys at a 4:1 ratio with only a 2 to 3 revolutions per minute speed loss....   (overunity implied but also should give some clue as to the unbalanced weight ratio...)

Now I'm going to show my lack of knowledge ... but every system I've seen shows items working in pairs...  Why?   I'm not a engineer...  but it seems to me that in order to raise a weight on one side of a wheel you better have at least 2 or more weights on the other side to overcome friction.  Taking the weight difference necessarry on one side to maintain movement you should be able to calculate ratio's.... (1 ball requires 2 to lift...  2 need 3...  3 need 6...  etc) (Gut feeling here but I believe an odd number of weights would be more likely to product results and how can an even number be unbalance?).  Also,  if you are going to maintain a weight ratio that will mean the weight traveling upward will either need to travel at considerable more velocity to maintain that ratio or travel considerable less distance (or even some combination of both)...

anyway... these were my noob uneducated thoughts....   critized condemn and or praise as desired...

Teutates

Ok....  I'm noticing a problem with this site... cant stop thinking about it.

Imagine a wheel within a wheel... spoked like a bike pedal assembly the inner wheel only engages when rotating in one direction.

Imagine a leaf spring with supporting notches for weights to rest in that would catch on the outter edge of the inner wheel...which has slotted compartments in it  this spring can fling 16 pounts as long as the outer weight isn't in place as the weight winds the leaf spring it shortens eventually allowing the end weight to fall off the spring.  The other 4 are catapulted into a wall that absorbs the energy rotating the inner wheel in the opposite direction (thus spinnging the outer wheel as well).  Mean while the 5th weight that has falling into one of the slots is rotated along the wheel  untill it falls back onto the holding slot of the leaf spring starting the process over again.  Remember on some of the diagrams the cross shaped object on the out side?  a counter weight to keep the inner wheel from spinning to far so the weights are aways some where within the 12 to 5 o'clock position.    the eight distictive thuds I mentioned above?  4 weights hitting the stop board... then falling back to to the leaf spring loading area...  maybe I should move this to half baked....

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