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Konrad Baecker Magnet motor converted from a DKW car motor

Started by hartiberlin, June 05, 2008, 05:03:07 AM

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hartiberlin

I just tried to look up
the phone number from Konrad B?cker
in Rathausstrasse 36, 85757 Karlsfeld, Germany,
where his latest patent was issued from in 2005,
but there is no phone number listed in the current German online
directory, nor did I find his phone number in my old files...

So does anyone know the phone number of him,
please let me know
privately and I will give him a call.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan Hartmann.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

hartiberlin

Quote from: ceres on June 12, 2008, 09:30:16 AM


What is surprising to me is the apparently low level of electrical energy needed to get the permanent magnet fluxes path changed temporarily. This is similar to Hildenbrand so it seems. Beware, we have no measurements, no data, just impressions from the video.


Hi ceres,
be sure to watch the video to the whole end.
There was a cut on the video at 23:37 min and the next day I went there again and you can see it in the last part of this video
from 23:37 minute on...
I connected an ampmeter , a voltmeter and my scope and the motor drew about 12 Volts x 15 to 17 amps average = about 200 Watts of input power.

I guess with the right coils and modern permanent magnets I could reduce this to around 10 to 20 Watts of input power only and
get much more mechanical power out of it.

Mr. B?cker did not have much knowledge of electronics and coil building and inductance and BackEMF effects at this time, so
he did design the coils very much with the wrong wire sizes, etc... so it did use up too much power...

Yes, it is a simular principle as the Hilden-Brandt valve design.

Regards, Stefan.
P.S: I tied to call his patent attorny, but Mr. senior Fleuchaus was already not working anymore,
but I got another colleague and they will try to find his phone number in their files tommorow.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

hartiberlin

I just reached the other gentleman, who was with me during my visit and
he will also try to look up in his files for the phone number of Mr. B?cker.
So if we are lucky, I will soon call Mr. B?cker and follow this up.

Regardsm Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

ceres

At dirt diggler,

The Gnome looks impressive, indeed the designer must have been a bit of a crazy man, yet, those are the ones to come up with new approaches.
As I wrote before, many patents exist applying instead of internal combustion a combination of permanent magnet power and magnet power from a pulsed iron cored coil, so in my view this is the basic principle we have to study, whether applied in the Gnome or in the conventional Otto engine does not really matter to me. The Gnome is adding mechanical complexity, not potential advantage over the basic Otto engine mechanism to replace combustion by ingenious electromagnetic trickery. Maybe I am wrong.

Question remains: which combination and configuration of electromagnet and permanent magnet in the ICE does produce a COP > 1,00 with a torque high enough to get the engine, car, boat, airplane whatever going.

@Stefan,
I promise to see the whole video before asking questions again.

How in a rough estimate does your 200 Watt reduction of input power to 20 Watt compare to the mechanical output of Baeckers engine? The alternator he uses maybe has an efficiency of 60%?? So, when we know how much torque at how much rpm is the case when a basic car alternator is running, an estimate can be made of the amount of mechanical power being consumed to recharge the battery apart from the fact that the engine is still running, so it has extra or surplus mechanical energy apparently.

As for me, I would be satisfied with an engine COP > 1,00 although not possessing strong a torque enough to drive a car, I would be happy to have this engine drive a generator. There's cars enough in the universe, I couldn't care less. Running an alternator to produce free electricity is satisfactory for me.

Regards, Ceres


FredWalter

Can this motor conversion be done with a single cylinder engine (say a lawn mower engine)?