This video pretty much says it all.

[KilltheMessenger]

I currently have HHO running in my Ford F150. I generate 32 Liters per hour and have a loss of 2 mpg, on average when I have the generator on. I have CO2 stand-off's installed, and have not been able to measure any differnece they have made. You can see my system on youtube under KillTheMessengers I''ve put many hours into my design, and it works to generate HHo very well, and it will make a great july 4th noise maker. I am not alone and I dare any of you who doubt my words to come forward and say that you have gained 20%, or 40% in gas mileage by using HHO. It simply can not work. The only gain is realized when the MAF sensor voltage is adjusted to make the vehicle run very lean. Running your vehicle very lean is dangerous to the health of the engine, but I still insist that tricking the MAF readings  is the only gain in mileage that anyone has seen. My words are backed by research, and  testing,  I did this with a group of very smart people, of which only one doubted that it would work. We all greed in the end, that you can't generate enough HHO to benefit your gas mileage in any normal vehicle.The alternator drag on my engine, ate any benefit I might have seen, and i nthe end, gave me a reduction in MPG.  When you have your own testing to speak of, then open you mouth and give us facts, otherwise, keep it to yourself. Don't tell me about what others have done, tell me about what you have done.

[utilitarian]

KilltheMessenger,   

See this:

http://www.hydrorunner.com/data/atds.pdf

Looks like 3rd party test data for the efficiency of a hydrogen booster in a diesel.  Do you think these guys are full of it?  Why don't you call them instead of coming here, and talking about something that you really have no idea about....   

Or would you complain about a dirt powered car as well?

Have you actually read the report you are posting?  I ask, because it is not exactly thorough.

1.  The testing company, per instructions, relied only on the on-board computer as far as documenting gas efficiency.  So no actual measurement of gasoline used was done.  If the onboard computer is not giving true readings, then the test results will not be accurate.

2.  The testing company, per instructions, did not examine the booster device at all.  This means there could have been fuel hidden in the booster device being added to the system.

Obviously, this is speculation, and we do not know what really happened.  But I am curious, why didn't the Check Engine LLC outfit just pay to have a real test done?  Why did they skimp on these vital details?

[newbie123]

KillTheMessenger,   1.8L /minute isn't much for a big 5.4L engine.   And if you came in and posted your results, without the agenda, and assumption that everyone with a HHO booster system is wasting their time.. you'd have more credibility. 

Utilitarian, maybe the tests were too expensive? Maybe the computer results are accurate? Maybe it's a big scam?  Who knows..  But the testing company is credible..  And the test results are better than nothing, and more interesting than all the HHO bubble makers you see on Youtube. 

http://www.ronnmotors.com/   ...Contact these guys... They claim to increase their mpg from 28 to 40 (i believe)

[KilltheMessenger]

Put us in touch with an actual satisfied customer instead.  I am waiting on the St Lucie Sheriff's department , who bought two units from the Jupiter Florida company that got air time on the evening news here in South Florida.  The Sherrif bought two units at $1200 each, and is having them installed in two patrol cars. The results will be aired on TV. The test will run for a month. If they work, they will buy 350 more for all of their patrol cars. I say that they will never buy, not even one more HHo generator form anyone. They probably won't toss them in jail for fraud, but it will be a inconclusive test that offers more questions instead of answers.   

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http://www.ronnmotors.com/   ...Contact these guys... They claim to increase their mpg from 28 to 40 (i believe)

[innovation_station]

intersting consveration


i can not confirm any tests in a car  as i have not installed a unit in a car yet ...

the tests i have done are all in the house  i do have the safty devices installed but not the cell yet as i must find a good cell design b4 i do any installing in my car 

how ever im pretty sure the last cell i built will serve the perpous i have let it run 5 hours 2 times now the draw is right around 20 amps after 3 hours of run time  it starts at 10 amp cold and climbs up to 20+-  i have a 25 amp curcuit breaker and it never tripped in 5 hours  im useing a 30 amp relay 

all is well so far with this design  but i must keep testing b4 im satistifed to install it

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a pic  ?     ok   lol