URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[gmeast]

Hi Greg,

Yes it is theory.Please give us more practical experiences about increasig mpg, or how much you improve mpg.Which method is practical for water injection ?Did you test which point is better for conect protecting diodes.On side spark plugs,or on distributor.And how many diodes need.In my test on desk I conect only 5-8 pcs  1N 5408 without problem ?? I think that one diode per kilovolt is enough,but working(on test desk),on couple diodes ? 
If you conect 300V on distributor side did you change HV cables? If you use solid wire HV cables,RFI is much higher ?Did you think about noise supresion circuit?And my last question:How much plasma in practical improve mpg,in percent ??

Thank you again.

Alpeko.

Hi Alpeko,

I trust you read the entire thread.  I used my Vexus circuit with 375 - 400 VDC Cap voltage and the exact circuits I posted.  I have one TVS on the oscillator board to protect things  I sucked in steam with the intake air.  I got 36 MPG. I used to get only 25 MPG.  The factory says only 31 MPG.   The steam comes from water dripping on part of the exhaust and being sucked up with another tube to the carburetor.  Pictures below:

I use solid spark plug wires.  The distributor side is only 12 V. The voltage on the other side of the NTE517 HV diodes is 385 - 410 VDC.  It is a regular spark that fires and then the plasma current jumps across the gap conditioned by the original standard coil spark.  The NTE517 diodes are 15KV x 0.535 A ... so I use four in parallel.

This was on the test bench first and  now in the car since last year ... several months now.  Like I said the power requirement of the oscillator, multiplier and R1 current limiter is based on the Joules it takes to charge C1 capacitor at max frequency ... max RPM. 

This is not just theory ... this is engineering and practical application ... already done ... proven ... finished a long time now.  Go to YouTube and type in "gmeast" and you will see 22 videos of the work I've done on this up until today starting with the original Water Spark Plug replication.

I hope this helps your experimenting,

Greg

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[alpeko]

Hi Greg,

Thank you very much for nice answer. I see all yours videos on youtube,and reading all on Panacea.

Many members try to replicate your circuit,and testing on cars.I am very grateful for your practical application of Vehus circuit on car.Your work is very encourage for me.

Thank you Greg.

Alpeko

[demios]

Alpeko,
imam malo pitanje vezano za komponente koje sam odabrao na sajtu Radio Kluba (sada se zovu Kelco). Evo su komponente:

http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mat3.jpg

Dakle, pitanje je da li je, iz vaseg iskustva, ELKO 100/450 RHT zaista 100 microF, 450V? Pitam vas jer u opisu na sajtu Radio kluba stoji ovo "Elko, stojeći (RAD), 105ř, 100ćF, 450V, 22X35mm, RM10" i kosta samo 300 dinara! Ako je to to (450V, 100microF) onda sam na konju, a vama dodjem turu pica Planiram da ga koristim za skladistenje energije (capacitor bank), koja ce onda ici kroz otpornike od 470 ili 510 Ohm (ne mogu da ih nadjem u vrednosti od 50W, pa sam mislio da vezem 10 otpornika od po 5 Ohm paralelno) do dump kondenzatora od 1.5microF 400V (u katalogu se zove CR75 1.5MF), pa onda kroz diode (20x 1N5408) do razvodne kape (necu da kacim zicu direktno na svecice, jer su tesko pristupacne).

For Alpeko:
One small question, this is the screenshot of the components I want to order for my plasma circuit:
http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mat3.jpg

Little explanation for non Serbian readers:

CR75 1.5MF is a capacitor, 1500.0 nF, 400V RM27.5, MKP, 10% (I will use it as a dump cap, AKA "C1")
ELKO 100/450 RHT is also a capacitor made by Elko (Czech), standing capacitor (RAD), 105*C, 100uF, 450V, 22X35mm, RM10 (I'm not sure this one is 100uF because it's really cheap - only 3.2 euros)
1N5408 is a silicone diode, SI-D 1000V 3A/200Ap
5W 470R is a resistor, 470 Ohm, 5W, Wire, 5% (I thought of using 10 of these in parallel because I can't find a singe 500 Ohm 50W resistor. BTW, will this work?)

The question is: Is ELKO 100/450 RHT capacitor what the catalogue says it is, and, from your experience, is it suitable for plasma circuit. I'm asking you this because it costs only 3.2 euros, and apparently it has 100 microF and 450 Volts! I thought it might have been a mistake in their catalogue or that it's some kind of a misunderstanding from my part. If it indeed is what I think it is, I owe you a round of drink

I plan to use it as a capacitor bank. The charge will then go through 470 or 510 Ohm resistor(s) (I can't find a singe 500 Ohm 50W resistor so I thought I could use 10x5W 500 Ohm in parallel),  to the dump cap (C1) 1.5microF 400V, and finally through the diodes (20x 1N5408) to the distributor.

Thanks a lot for help and patience everybody!!!

[alpeko]

Zdravo Demios,

Jeste to je 100uF/450V,a ono 105 je stepeni celsijusa.To je isto vrlo bitna karakteristika za elektrolite,do koje temp mogu da se zagreju a da ne eksplodiraju.

Sto se tice otpornika ako ih vezujes paralelno,istina je povecaces im snagu ali ces im smanjiti otpornost.Dva otpornika od 5 oma vezana paralelno od 5 W su  isto kao i 2,5 oma 10 W.Ako ih vezes redno snaga im ostaje ista ali se otpornost sabira.U tom slucaju bi imao 2x5=10 oma ali i dalje 5 W.

Ja ovih dana planiram da napravim profesionalno multispark CDI na profesionalnoj plocici,koju projektujem u softweru Altium designer,pa cemo se cuti.Ja inace imam dosta uredjaja koje sam proizvodim.

Pozdrav

Alpeko - Kole.

Little explanation for non Serbian readers:

ELKO 100/450 RHT yes realy 100 uF/ 450V,105 mean 105 celsius,1N5408 is a silicone diode, SI-D 1000V 3A/200Ap,for protection LV from HV.

For paralel resistor wiring power is multiply,but resistance is divide.For series resistors wiring power stay same as one resistor,but resistance is adding.

I have planning to make professional  multispark CDI ,and working on PCB in Altium designer software.I have some of electronic equipment who is build yourself.
I designing many PCB with Protel DXP software.This software have electronic simulator for circuits.


Best reg.

Alpeko.

[demios]

Excellent Alpeko, thank you very much! I thought there would be problems with resistors, it sounded too easy Nevertheless, I think I'll be able to find some scrap resistor or new one in one of the electronics TV/VIDEO services around. I can't wait to see how your CDI will work! Best of luck!