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Magnetic OU principle, You should really take a look at this !

Started by Butch, July 02, 2008, 01:01:34 PM

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Butch

Derricka,
The washers go in expanded when the pull is greatest and then they are compressed while in line with the stator and exit in the compressed fashion. We made measurements and the work to compress the washers is 2 to 3 times less than the work available due to the reduced pull during exit. Also a second option is the washers could be allowed to expand during approach doing work and that work used to compress them while in the stator. We are running more tests and hope to increase the ratio of pull in to pull out many times over what it is now. What we are seeing here is a discovery in addition to our previous invention. I feel both will work as well as many other configurations and operating principles based on the Perpendicular Magnetics principle. It's a field day for overunity research with this. We are working around the clock to test and document all that we are finding. The electrical version and permanent magnet version are both workable I feel and in different operating modes also. Everyone please build and test your ideas and show on video.
Thanks,
Butch LaFonte

nightlife

I'll be damn. Great find. I have a design figured out that will work with this concept.

derricka

Sounds like all that is needed is to have a plastic roller on the end of the washers and a plastic track to keep it confined on the way out, until past the influence of the magnets. 

wizkycho

Hi all !

Butch experiment shows that when washers are distanced - much more force is needed to move/remove magnets which makes
linear moving of magnet from one w.stack to another w.stack very inneficient.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5064.0;attach=26918 (magnet movement is inneficient if washers stack is between - if identical (static) metal parts are used inbetween magnet moves left-right easily)

how to make it efficient ?

1. washers in Butch exp. are really too thin (so when they are concentrated - they gatther only small ammount of field lines from wide magnets)

2a. washers really should be rectangular

2b. use of "field path directors" is must
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5064.0;attach=27242
wich will render that when washers are concentrated allso flux lines are concentrated and all of the field is able to pass through washers. (again if washers not too thin).

so now this works (magents with path directors are easily moved, cause complete flux now goes through washers no matter how washers are positioned)
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5064.0;attach=27140


@Butch - since you have experiment setup on the table can you please make it like this - four or five washers glued (to get one thick enough), and between magnets some permeable material for "path directors-concentrators" and then meassure how much weight it can stand. both should be SAME high weight.

Wiz

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