Gravity Motor Patent 7/10/08

[TinselKoala]

(rolls on the floor laughing)
So now we are reinventing the Bedini motor, or any number of devices that attempt to capture and use BEMF.

mondrasek, have you done very much reading about the topics you are discussing?

Because it seems like you are "discovering" ideas that have already been discovered and explored, and there are actually threads on this very site that discuss all of them that you have come up with so far.

Next you will propose using the electrical output of your (non-existent) generator to electrolyze water so that we can run our cars on it.

But this idea, too, has been out there for a long time.

(It is actually extremely difficult to come up with a genuinely new and original idea. SO don't feel too badly when you learn that yours, well, just aren't.)

So, so far we have a Besseler-Quinn-Bedini wheel. Let's add some more stuff. If you rotate the stator mags at the right time, in the opposite direction from the way they would rotate if they were simply geared, the rotor will experience a push-pull as the rotor magnets swing past the stators. Conversely, this same effect could be achieved with a reversing (not just an on-off) electromagnet.
So we would be building a Besseler-Quinn-Bedini-OCMPMM wheel.

[mondrasek]

TinselKoala,

I am still not proposing to use the magnets in any way to propel this motor.  Gravity does all the work.  I am proposing using an electromagnet to move the magnets in each mass switch up (at 6 and 12 o-clock) in a more efficient manner than using the perminent magnets we can all see are able to accomplish this in Clanzer's videos.

Off course the pulsing electromagnet stator magnet designs would not be 100% efficient.  But would they be more efficent than having to overcome the wall in a perminant magnet?

I don't know if re-capturing BEMF from an electromagnet is possible or not.  That was my question.  Anyone have answers?

[TinselKoala]

Do I have to post the links, or can you be bothered to look on this site for them yourself?

Your story is not credible. You claim to be an engineer with 15+ years of experience, working for a major engineering firm, yet you do not seem to have access to a machine shop, and you made the incredibly basic blunder of trying to use aluminum tubes for your magnets in your first attempt. And you spelled "eddy currents" wrong. Etc. Etc.

[mondrasek]

20+ years, 15+ in robotics.  But I am a Mechanical Engineer.  Understandably weak in Electrical and Magnets wouldn't you agree?  That is why I pose those theories as questions.

But I am not here to argue with you.  If I am proved wrong it will still be worth the loss of the patent app fee.  I doubt I'll sleep well until I see one run or learn why it will not.  None of the dozen or so Engineers I have disclosed to can tell me why it will not run.

Your ideas are also welcome. 

I have acces to a machine shop.  Not a model shop, but it could make a larger scale version.  But replication was not my goal here.  I want this modeled in simulation software.  Trial and error prototyping is an inefficient way to optimize a design.

I am thrilled and honored that Clanzer is going for a build.  But I still ask any and all who have contacts with institutions and individuals with the simulation capabilities and interest to forward them the design info.  That is the fastest way to actual producable water pumps, or the unerstanding why this design does not work.

[markh]

There has been something that I have been thinking about for a while, and it may be useful for this application.  I saw a product called magswitch on the internet.  It somehow mechanically turns a magnet on and off.  I don't know much about magnetizm, but could this process be used to turn the magnet on at just the right time to push the stator up?

Does anyone know how that product works.  It could be useful for a few different applications.